[NSRCA-discussion] FAI-f3a Survey

Mon Feb 14 12:57:57 AKST 2022

My bad, I inadvertently attached a survey that had already been filled out by someone.  Please delete it in favor of this blank survey (and consider sending it to Peter).

Thx, Jerry

Budd Engineering
jerry at buddengineering.com
661-435-0358

> On Feb 14, 2022, at 1:49 PM, Jerry Budd via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> NSRCA received the following survey request from Peter Uhlig, CIAM F3A RC Aerobatics Subcommittee Chairman.  If you fly, or judge F3A, please consider filling out the attached survey and send it directly to Peter at F3AChairman at t-online.de <mailto:F3AChairman at t-online.de>.  Note that Peter is asking for your responses by Feb 20th, so don’t delay.
> 
> Thx, Jerry
> 
> Budd Engineering
> jerry at buddengineering.com <mailto:jerry at buddengineering.com>
> 661-435-0358
> 
> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Vicente Bortone <vincebrc at gmail.com <mailto:vincebrc at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 9:34 AM
>> Subject: FAI-f3a Survey
>> To: Patternflyers Phantomflyersrc <patternflyers at phantomflyersrc.com <mailto:patternflyers at phantomflyersrc.com>>
>> 
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I got the attached survey from Peter Uhlig.  Peter is the CIAM F3 RC Aerobatics Subcommittee Chairman.  I am forwarding his email too.  As you can see the international group or pattern pilots have the same concerns we have in regard to the future of pattern.  He wants anyone that flies or judges FAI-F3a to respond to Survey.  I suggest you read his email before responding to the survey.  You will need to send the survey to http://F3AChairman@t-online.de/ <http://F3AChairman@t-online.de/>  Please notice that we have until 2/20/22. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
>> NSRCA 1140.  Be Proud to show your NSRCA #
>> 
>>> From: Peter Uhlig <F3AChairman at t-online.de <mailto:F3AChairman at t-online.de>>
>>> Date: Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:36 PM
>>> Subject: Survey
>>> 
>>> Dear Subcommittee Members, pilots and judges from all over the world,
>>> since we could not meet during the last two years, I will use this way to contact you.
>>> 
>>> Some weeks ago I had a chat with a very experienced and famous F3A pilot. He is afraid about the future of F3A:
>>> 
>>> "My point of view at the moment is: No changing rules for next 2/3 years but engage discussions between Ciam/ pilotes/ companies about what is the future of F3A . What is necessary to have this discipline still exist in 10 years?
>>> I hear in club more and more critical words about F3A, as planes are flying so high that we don’t see them. Planes are horrible, look like indoor, they are too big to transport in my car ... etc . I think for future we must consider that the cars will change , the box for transport in plane needs to be smaller otherwise very expensive...etc"
>>> 
>>> I reflected some time and in my opinion we all need to think about, how we will go on with F3A in the future. We also need to reflect, how it can be less expensive. At the moment only a few people are able to build suitable F3A models by themselves. The available planes  are mostly very expensive and close to current weight limit. One repair and the plane will be too heavy. Another case is, how we can get interested new pilots for our sport.
>>> 
>>> To know your opinion, I created a survey.
>>> 
>>> Please allow me to comment and further explain some questions. You will find the survey attached and it is a fillable PDF.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Question 1:         Smaller models cause less problems to transport.
>>> Question 2:         Do we really need a weight limit. Nobody will built a heavy model, we all know that light models fly better and match constant speed criterion much easier.
>>> 
>>> Question 3,4:     To allow development in propulsion devices.
>>> 
>>> Question 5:         Please try a smaller model with stabilizer (gyro) in damping mode. If models will become smaller, feeling in flight will be smilar  with stabilizer in damping mode.
>>> 
>>> Question7:           Will allow more flights on local and international competitions, may save money for Category 1 organizers. More flights in front of  a panel are possible.
>>> 
>>> Question 8:          In many countries we will have height restrictions in the future, our manoevring zone height is 300 m if we fly in 175 m distance.
>>> 
>>> Question 9:          May be we can avoid ugly designs in this way.
>>> 
>>> Question 10:        Why not have something for spectators and show flying skills of an F3A model.
>>> 
>>> Question 11 -15:  Some questions about F3A situation in your country/your region.
>>> 
>>> All changes need to be discussed within the Subcommittee and to be accepted by CIAM Plenary.
>>> 
>>> Please share the survey with F3A friends in your country and send it back to me till February 20, 2022:
>>> 
>>> F3AChairman at t-online.de <http://F3AChairman@t-online.de/>
>>> 
>>> Looking forward to your replies.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter Uhlig
>>> 
>>> CIAM F3 RC Aerobatics Sucommittee Chairman
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