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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 14, 2022, at 1:49 PM, Jerry Budd via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">All,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">NSRCA received the following survey request from Peter Uhlig, CIAM F3A RC Aerobatics Subcommittee Chairman. If you fly, or judge F3A, please consider filling out the attached survey and send it directly to Peter at <a shape="rect" href="mailto:F3AChairman@t-online.de" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">F3AChairman@t-online.de</a>. Note that Peter is asking for your responses by Feb 20th, so don’t delay.<div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">
<div class="">Thx, Jerry<br class=""><br class="">Budd Engineering<br class=""><a href="mailto:jerry@buddengineering.com" class="">jerry@buddengineering.com</a><br class="">661-435-0358</div>
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br class="">From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Vicente Bortone</strong> <span dir="auto" class=""><<a href="mailto:vincebrc@gmail.com" class="">vincebrc@gmail.com</a>></span><br class="">Date: Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 9:34 AM<br class="">Subject: FAI-f3a Survey<br class="">To: Patternflyers Phantomflyersrc <<a href="mailto:patternflyers@phantomflyersrc.com" class="">patternflyers@phantomflyersrc.com</a>><br class=""></div><br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Hello all,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I got the attached survey from Peter Uhlig. Peter is the CIAM F3 RC Aerobatics Subcommittee Chairman. I am forwarding his email too. As you can see the international group or pattern pilots have the same concerns we have in regard to the future of pattern. He wants anyone that flies or judges FAI-F3a to respond to Survey. I suggest you read his email before responding to the survey. You will need to send the survey to <a href="http://F3AChairman@t-online.de/" target="_blank" class="">http://F3AChairman@t-online.de/</a> Please notice that we have until 2/20/22. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Vicente "Vince" Bortone</div><div class=""><b class="">NSRCA 1140. Be Proud to show your NSRCA #</b></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class="">From: <strong style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class="">Peter Uhlig</strong> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:F3AChairman@t-online.de" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class="">F3AChairman@t-online.de</a>><br clear="none" class="">Date: Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:36 PM<br clear="none" class="">Subject: Survey<br clear="none" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">Dear Subcommittee Members, pilots and judges from all over the world,<br clear="none" class="">since we could not meet during the last two years, I will use this way to contact you.</font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">Some weeks ago I had a chat with a very experienced and famous F3A pilot. He is afraid about the future of F3A:<br clear="none" class=""></font></font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">"My point of view at the moment is: No changing rules for next 2/3 years but engage discussions between Ciam/ pilotes/ companies about what is the future of F3A . What is necessary to have this discipline still exist in 10 years?</font></font><br clear="none" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">I hear in club more and more critical words about F3A, as planes are flying so high that we don’t see them. Planes are horrible, look like indoor, they are too big to transport in my car ... etc . I think for future we must consider that the cars will change , the box for transport in plane needs to be smaller otherwi</font></font><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">se very expensive...etc"</font></font><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></font></font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">I reflected some time and in my opinion we all need to think about, how we will go on with F3A in the future. We also need to reflect, how it can be less expensive. At the moment only a few people are able to build suitable F3A models by themselves. The available planes are </font></font><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">mostly </font></font><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">very expensive and close to current weight limit. One repair and the plane will be too heavy. Another case is, how we can get interested new pilots for our sport.<br clear="none" class=""></font></font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">To know your opinion, I created a survey.<br clear="none" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></font></font><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">Please allow me to comment and further explain some questions. You will find the survey attached and it is a fillable PDF.</font></font></font></font></p><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></font></font><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">Question 1: Smaller models cause less problems to transport.</font></font></div><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">Question 2: Do we really need a weight limit. Nobody will built a heavy model, we all know that light models fly better and match constant speed criterion much easier.</font></font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">Question</font></font> 3,4: To allow development in propulsion devices.</font></font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">Question</font></font> 5: Please try a smaller model with stabilizer (gyro) in damping mode. If models will become smaller, feeling in flight will be smilar with stabilizer in damping mode.</font></font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">Question</font></font>7: Will allow more flights on local and international competitions, may save money for Category 1 organizers. More flights in front of a panel are possible.</font></font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">Question</font></font> 8: In many countries we will have height restrictions in the future, our manoevring zone height is 300 m if we fly in 175 m distance.</font></font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">Question</font></font> 9: May be we can avoid ugly designs in this way.</font></font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">Question</font></font> 10: Why not have something for spectators and show flying skills of an F3A model.</font></font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">Question</font></font> 11 -15: Some questions about F3A situation in your country/your region.</font></font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">All changes need to be discussed within the Subcommittee and to be accepted by CIAM Plenary.<br clear="none" class=""><br clear="none" class=""><b style="font-family:Arial" class="">Please share the survey with F3A friends in your country and send it back to me till February 20, 2022:</b></font></font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><a shape="rect" href="http://F3AChairman@t-online.de/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" style="font-family:Arial" class="">F3AChairman@t-online.de</a><br clear="none" class=""></font></font><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></font></font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">Looking forward to your replies.</font></font><br clear="none" class=""></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><br clear="none" class="">Kind regards<br clear="none" class="">Peter Uhlig</font></font></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class=""><font size="1" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(38,40,42)" class="">CIAM F3 RC Aerobatics Sucommittee Chairman</font></font></font></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>