[NSRCA-discussion] Election

Wed Dec 26 04:51:01 AKST 2018

++1
-------- Original message --------From: Bob Kane via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> Date: 12/26/18  5:55 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Scott McNickle <nelson_jett at comcast.net>, General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>, derek emmett <derekemmett at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election 
+1

Bob Kane getterflash at yahoo.com

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 12/25/18, derek emmett via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
 To: "Scott McNickle" <nelson_jett at comcast.net>, "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
 Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2018, 11:30 PM

 Exactly
 Scott!  This was my experience being part of the sequence
 committee... Oh, please, please sign me up for that again!
  ; )
 This continued public
 diatribe, that has gone completely sideways, almost
 guarantees you couldn’t pay an individual to take on any
 of these positions.

 A good
 point taken completely sideways, then upside down needs to
 stop. This is not healthy for our community.

 On Dec 25, 2018, at 7:02 AM,
 Scott McNickle via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
 wrote:

     OK, let me get this
 straight...you think someone would cheat to get a job that
 pays nothing, takes up a lot of time and sets you up to be
 sniped at by anyone feeling cranky on a particular day, or
 just in general?  And you think that the Board of
 Directors, who devote countless hours trying to promote and
 maintain our hobby, put lots of thought into trying to
 produce interesting K Factor columns for you to read every
 month, and often spend considerable amounts of their own
 money attending Pattern-related events when they might
 rather be doing something else, would conspire to favor one
 volunteer over another?And you want to
 'censure' us?Well, that's just
 hilarious.
 Scott McNickle
 On December 24,
 2018 at 6:48 PM Ken Dunlap via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
 wrote: 

 Joe.
 In your words " There
 is   not   a
 requirement (implied or otherwise) for a veil of secrecy in
 the process." So, in this spirit I have a couple of
 questions.
  1)
 Did you see or were you made aware of the actual vote count
 in your race?2)
 Did you see or were you made aware of the number of NSCRA
 members who have voted to date?3)
 If you saw or were made aware of vote numbers, did you have
 access to who a member voted for in this
 election?4)
 Was this information shared at the same time with all
 candidates or their representatives for each
 race?5)
 Under the NSRCA By-Laws and Constitution, Article VIII
 Section 2e  says " e.
 A third party to the NSRCA such as an external audit group
 of the AMA should count all votes." If actual voting
 number totals were revealed, was a potential conflict with
 the By-laws discussed by any member of the Board and who did
 so?
  Thanks for the
 clarifications.

 Ken
 Dunlap 

 From: NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>
 on behalf of J via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
  Sent: Sunday, December 23,
 2018 9:38 PM
  To: Tony
 Frackowiak; General pattern discussion

 Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
 Election Good evening
 all,First, thank you Tony F. for starting this thread
 as it is great to see interest in the process.  As a point
 of information, the Board did indeed discuss the status of
 the elections at the December 2018 meeting, as clearly
 reflected in the minutes. This was done for two
 reasons. 1. To verify that everything was up and
 running properly, and2. To encourage as much of
 the membership as possible to cast their vote.
 The DVP’s were encouraged to reach
 out to their local members to vote, which you still can do
 for the next week or so. Please, encourage all who have not
 voted to please do so for whomever they
 like. 
 It’s great
 to see such passion about the process. It’s also helpful
 to stick to what we know to be true and factual. There is
 not a requirement (implied or otherwise)
 for a veil of secrecy in the process.  Any suggestion
 otherwise is simply incorrect.  Also, there was no
 advocating one candidate over another. There was however,
 excitement in people participating in the electronic ballot
 process. 
 Here’s
 the good news.  If you feel strongly enough to change the
 voting process, you have that power and can submit that
 request to modify the bylaws as a member. You also have to
 opportunity to whip votes for the Candidate of your choosing
 until voting closes on December 31, with an electronic vote,
 or a written ballot for an additional 10 calendar days per
 the bylaws. 
  So, tell all your
 friends that time is running short to let your voice be
 heard. Go online now and cast your vote ( https://www.nsrca.us/).
 Every vote matters!
 Merry Christmas and happy holidays
 to all!
 Joe
  On Dec 22, 2018, at 7:08 PM,
 Tony Frackowiak via NSRCA-discussion < nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
 wrote: 

 I was looking at the minutes of the December 12th
 NSRCA BOD meeting. During that meeting according to the
 minutes there was a discussion about the current vote count
 in the election. 
 Isn’t
 voting open until the end of the month?  And isn’t there
 a longer time for mailed in ballots to be received? Why are
 the votes being tallied and discussed by the Board before
 the end of the voting period?
 That is highly unethical and smacks
 of voting fraud. At the very least it sounds like an attempt
 to influence the results. 
 I will await a
 reply. 
 Tony
 Frackowiak _______________________________________________
  NSRCA-discussion mailing list 
  NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org

  http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion
  _______________________________________________

 NSRCA-discussion mailing list 
 NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org

 http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion

  _______________________________________________
 NSRCA-discussion mailing list
 NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
 http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion_______________________________________________
 NSRCA-discussion mailing list
 NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
 http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion
 -----Inline Attachment Follows-----

_______________________________________________
NSRCA-discussion mailing list
NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.nsrca.org/pipermail/nsrca-discussion/attachments/20181226/8cc66e2d/attachment.html>