<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body>++1<div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Bob Kane via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> </div><div>Date: 12/26/18 5:55 AM (GMT-06:00) </div><div>To: Scott McNickle <nelson_jett@comcast.net>, General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org>, derek emmett <derekemmett@yahoo.com> </div><div>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election </div><div><br></div></div>+1<br><br>Bob Kane getterflash@yahoo.com<br><br>--------------------------------------------<br>On Tue, 12/25/18, derek emmett via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> wrote:<br><br> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election<br> To: "Scott McNickle" <nelson_jett@comcast.net>, "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br> Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2018, 11:30 PM<br> <br> Exactly<br> Scott! This was my experience being part of the sequence<br> committee... Oh, please, please sign me up for that again!<br> ; )<br> This continued public<br> diatribe, that has gone completely sideways, almost<br> guarantees you couldn’t pay an individual to take on any<br> of these positions.<br> <br> A good<br> point taken completely sideways, then upside down needs to<br> stop. This is not healthy for our community.<br> <br> On Dec 25, 2018, at 7:02 AM,<br> Scott McNickle via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br> wrote:<br> <br> <br> <br> OK, let me get this<br> straight...you think someone would cheat to get a job that<br> pays nothing, takes up a lot of time and sets you up to be<br> sniped at by anyone feeling cranky on a particular day, or<br> just in general? And you think that the Board of<br> Directors, who devote countless hours trying to promote and<br> maintain our hobby, put lots of thought into trying to<br> produce interesting K Factor columns for you to read every<br> month, and often spend considerable amounts of their own<br> money attending Pattern-related events when they might<br> rather be doing something else, would conspire to favor one<br> volunteer over another?And you want to<br> 'censure' us?Well, that's just<br> hilarious.<br> Scott McNickle<br> On December 24,<br> 2018 at 6:48 PM Ken Dunlap via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br> wrote: <br> <br> Joe.<br> In your words " There<br> is not a<br> requirement (implied or otherwise) for a veil of secrecy in<br> the process." So, in this spirit I have a couple of<br> questions.<br> 1)<br> Did you see or were you made aware of the actual vote count<br> in your race?2)<br> Did you see or were you made aware of the number of NSCRA<br> members who have voted to date?3)<br> If you saw or were made aware of vote numbers, did you have<br> access to who a member voted for in this<br> election?4)<br> Was this information shared at the same time with all<br> candidates or their representatives for each<br> race?5)<br> Under the NSRCA By-Laws and Constitution, Article VIII<br> Section 2e says " e.<br> A third party to the NSRCA such as an external audit group<br> of the AMA should count all votes." If actual voting<br> number totals were revealed, was a potential conflict with<br> the By-laws discussed by any member of the Board and who did<br> so?<br> Thanks for the<br> clarifications.<br> <br> Ken<br> Dunlap <br> <br> From: NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org><br> on behalf of J via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br> Sent: Sunday, December 23,<br> 2018 9:38 PM<br> To: Tony<br> Frackowiak; General pattern discussion<br> <br> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]<br> Election Good evening<br> all,First, thank you Tony F. for starting this thread<br> as it is great to see interest in the process. As a point<br> of information, the Board did indeed discuss the status of<br> the elections at the December 2018 meeting, as clearly<br> reflected in the minutes. This was done for two<br> reasons. 1. To verify that everything was up and<br> running properly, and2. To encourage as much of<br> the membership as possible to cast their vote.<br> The DVP’s were encouraged to reach<br> out to their local members to vote, which you still can do<br> for the next week or so. Please, encourage all who have not<br> voted to please do so for whomever they<br> like. <br> It’s great<br> to see such passion about the process. It’s also helpful<br> to stick to what we know to be true and factual. There is<br> not a requirement (implied or otherwise)<br> for a veil of secrecy in the process. Any suggestion<br> otherwise is simply incorrect. Also, there was no<br> advocating one candidate over another. There was however,<br> excitement in people participating in the electronic ballot<br> process. <br> Here’s<br> the good news. If you feel strongly enough to change the<br> voting process, you have that power and can submit that<br> request to modify the bylaws as a member. You also have to<br> opportunity to whip votes for the Candidate of your choosing<br> until voting closes on December 31, with an electronic vote,<br> or a written ballot for an additional 10 calendar days per<br> the bylaws. <br> So, tell all your<br> friends that time is running short to let your voice be<br> heard. Go online now and cast your vote ( https://www.nsrca.us/).<br> Every vote matters!<br> Merry Christmas and happy holidays<br> to all!<br> Joe<br> On Dec 22, 2018, at 7:08 PM,<br> Tony Frackowiak via NSRCA-discussion < nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br> wrote: <br> <br> I was looking at the minutes of the December 12th<br> NSRCA BOD meeting. During that meeting according to the<br> minutes there was a discussion about the current vote count<br> in the election. <br> Isn’t<br> voting open until the end of the month? And isn’t there<br> a longer time for mailed in ballots to be received? Why are<br> the votes being tallied and discussed by the Board before<br> the end of the voting period?<br> That is highly unethical and smacks<br> of voting fraud. 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