[NSRCA-discussion] Executive Board voting

Wed Nov 21 04:48:45 AKST 2012

Right on the money Jerry!

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Jerry Stebbins <Jastebbins at att.net> wrote:

> **
> Unfortunately, it makes an unwarranted assumption that a majority of the
> Membershp visit the website frequently enough to use it as their principal
> means of getting ongoing key information. Many of us visit as we need, not
> because we "have to" each week to keep up with what is going on. I for one
> still use the K Factor as my principle interface to find out what is going
> on. Digital forces me to committ/spend time in front of my moniter until I
> have read it all, and it is hard to allocate that kind of time, when I can
> pick up and read  the printed copy as I have time and the inclination.
> If you do go all digital I bet there will be fewer read it as
> consistently, and thoroughly as they do now.
> Having been there, I know how easy it is to miss stuff, so take my
> comments in that light.
> I just happen to agree with Jon that until NSRCA goes all
> digital, the printed copy is where most will get, and expect, their info.
> Jerry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jim Quinn <jaqfly at prodigy.net>
> *To:* General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:59 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Executive Board voting
>
>  Very well said, Scott.
>
> Jim Quinn
>
>
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> *From:* Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com>
> *To:* General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Mon, November 19, 2012 10:18:49 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Executive Board voting
>
> Requests for nominations were posted on the home page of the NSRCA website
> for over one month. Board minutes from September 27 listed the nominations.
>  The Facebook page also reminded participants about turning in nominations.
>  I am uncertain about the list but I will also check to see if something
> was sent out to the list.  If we missed this list, it was a mistake by the
> board.  I think I speak for every single individual that volunteers to fill
> these positions....there is nothing more that we'd rather see than more
> participation in helping, volunteering and contributing to our
> organization.  Many times, these positions are filled because no one else
> wants to.
>
>
> Scott
> On Nov 19, 2012 8:59 PM, "Jon Lowe" <jonlowe at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm a little concerned about the nomination process this year.  I didn't
>> remember seeing an announcement on this list that nominations were being
>> solicited, so I did a search in the list archives.  Didn't find anything.
>> Then I looked at the online K-Factors.  Hmmm, a brief mention in Jim
>> Quinn's column in the October issue (which I still haven't received in the
>> mail), and nothing in the November issue that I could find (I haven't
>> received that one either).  I haven't found anything else.
>>
>> I did find a lot of griping by the current NSRCA board members in the
>> online November K-Factor about an alleged lack of transparency in the
>> Contest Board procedures for the proposed rules changes that were all voted
>> down.  I guess I see a lack of tranparency here for the NSRCA board
>> nominations.  The first I knew that anyone had been nominated was today
>> when I received the email here asking us to vote.  In years past, we gave
>> the nominees an opportunity to provide their thoughts on why they should be
>> elected.  Whatever happened to that?
>>
>> Did I miss something?
>>
>> Oh, and about the Contest Board.  Their process is well documented by the
>> AMA and follows a strict time table.  We all had the opportunity to provide
>> inputs and cross proposals after the initial vote.  We also had the
>> opportunity to talk to the CB members, and I did talk to a couple of them.
>> The CB members are mostly active members of the pattern community, are well
>> known, and are charted by the AMA, not the NSRCA, to look at rules
>> proposals to benefit all AMA participants, not just NSRCA members. Problems
>> with the NSRCA proposals were hashed out here, and the submitters had the
>> opportunity to fix issues during the cross proposal process.  How much
>> follow-up contact did the NSRCA board initiate with the CB during the
>> process?  Were any cross proposals submitted?
>>
>> Flame suit on...
>>  Jon
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Vogel <vogel.peter at gmail.com>
>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Mon, Nov 19, 2012 7:55 pm
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Executive Board voting
>>
>> I confess I don't understand why folks would vote for someone who didn't
>> want to be bothered to put their name in the very small hat...  I'd rather
>> vote for someone committed to doing a good job in the position...
>>
>> For me that means Jon Carter, the fact that I know him and know his level
>> of commitment to the sport and the quality of his thinking, not to mention
>> his coaching helps, but I don't think it would matter if he were on the
>> east coast and I were here in CA, because he stepped up as the sole
>> volunteer for a difficult position amongst some of the most
>> compulsive-obsessive freaks (I count myself in that description) in RC...
>>
>> Peter+
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If a guy who wins the popular vote that is a write-in and that person
>>> accepts the nomination, I would assume that person wins and takes the
>>> office.  If the write-in declines, it would defer to the person with the
>>> next largest amount of votes.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Ronald Van Putte <vanputter at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> So if a guy whose name is not an "accepted nominee" wins, we start
>>>> voting for that office over?  Or does the election process defer to an
>>>> "accepted nominee"?
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>>  On Nov 19, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Jon Lowe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Because someone wrote them in.  I like the choice.
>>>>  Jon
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ronald Van Putte <vanputter at gmail.com>
>>>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Sent: Mon, Nov 19, 2012 6:52 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Executive Board voting
>>>>
>>>> If some are not "accepted nominations", why are their names on the
>>>> ballot?
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>>  On Nov 19, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Scott McHarg wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good evening guys,
>>>>    During the voting process, there have been a few write-in votes.
>>>>  This is GREAT!  Please, keep in mind, however, that write-in votes are not
>>>> truly accepted nominations.  Some of the write-in votes are for people that
>>>> have already voted for others.  In other words, they probably don't even
>>>> know they have been nominated.  There is absolutely nothing wrong voting
>>>> for write-in candidates but you may want to make sure they know they have
>>>> been nominated.  We are trying to keep up with the voting to place
>>>> "Write-In candidate" next to those names.  Due to a restriction in the
>>>> software, write-in candidates will display in the choices.  The following
>>>> are accepted nominations by the nominees.  All others are write-ins.
>>>>
>>>> President - Jon Carter
>>>> VP - Don Atwood
>>>> Secretary - Scott McHarg
>>>> Treasurer - John Gayer
>>>>
>>>> Warmest Regards and Happy Thanksgiving,
>>>> Scott
>>>>
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>>>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>>>> Sr. Systems Engineer - Infrastructure
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