[NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to newFAIrules

[J N Hiller]

In rereading the AMA rule regarding smoothness and gracefulness I don't see
any reference to constant speed. The bulk of the information in the single
paragraph deals with geometric maneuver defects.
"A perfect set of consecutive rolls should have a constant roll rate from
start to finish. A perfect loop must have a constant radius defining a
perfect circle. It cannot be made up of a series of straight flight
increments joined with sudden angular jerks. Rotations in the pitch axis of
the model should be made evenly, and show a constant radius as the model
transitions from line to line. Higher marks should not be awarded for flying
tight, high-g corners."
A single sentence is consistent with the paragraph title "b. Smoothness and
gracefulness. "
"A most general definition would relate to providing a smooth, flowing,
polished appearance in flight."
This single sentence alone probably wouldn't warrant a second place in
judging criteria. Looks like the paragraph may be mislabeled.
In reviewing the NSRCA judging certification test I don't see anything
regarding constant speed, but I'm getting old and may have missed something.
In any case I'll fly as I've always tried too, crisp and precise, regardless
of how its judged, because it pleases me.
Jim

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bob Kane
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:19 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to
newFAIrules

FWIW, this is identical to to the ranking in the AMA Competition
regulations:

>From the current AMA document (RCA-12):

1. Precision of the maneuver.
2. Smoothness and gracefulness of the maneuver.
3. Positioning or display of the maneuver.
4. Size or dimensions of the maneuver relative to the maneuvering area,
distance from the judges, and other maneuvers in the flight.

The above criteria are listed in order of importance; however, all of them
must be met for a maneuver to be rated perfect.

Bob Kane getterflash at yahoo.com
From: J N Hiller <jnhiller at earthlink.net>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to new
FAIrules

I would have thought positioning rated a higher precision aerobatics.
Smoothness and gracefulness is polish.
Jim

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tocdon at netscape.net
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 6:06 PM
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to new
FAIrules

This will keep the list going (and the discussions too).  I recall Michael
Ramel clearly discussing the future of the rules during the judges training
at the World Championships at Muncie.  This was relating to smoothness and
gracefulness being directly related to constant speed.  The following
reflects what he discussed, as cited on page 35, and effect the way a score
is awarded:

Geometry:  50%
Smoothness and Gracefulness: 25%
Position of maneuver: 12.5%
Size of maneuver: 12.5%
Proportion of the maneuver outside the (box) in addition to above.

The specific, objective criteria used to judge smoothness and gracefulness
includes, "maintaining constant speed throughout various maneuver
components, like climbing and decending sections..."

Also the sentence about radii being very loose or very tight, even if equal
size within a maneuver, are grounds for downgrade of smoothness and
gracefulness.

Cheers,
Don


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