[NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion topic relating to newFAIrules

[Keith Hoard]

Ron,

Do you have any equations to evaluate the changes in acceleration, velocity and vectors of the airframe, thus resulting in a numeric evaluation of “smoothness and gracefulness”!!  

Then we can feed that number into the 25%/12.5%/12.5%/50% equation to get a final raw score.





From: Ronald Van Putte 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:49 AM
To: General pattern discussion 
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion topic relating to newFAIrules

After thinking about this further, I wonder how the change in  ranking affects anything.  Positioning has specific downgrades (2 point downgrade for each 1/4 of the maneuver off center).  However, I am unaware of any specific downgrades for smoothness and gracefulness. 

Ron Van Putte


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  From: Ronald Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>

  Date: January 31, 2012 8:24:56 AM CST

  To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>

  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to new FAIrules

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  That's interesting.  I know #2. and #3. were in reverse order before.  I don't remember a rules change vote on this. 

  Ron Van Putte

  On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:19 AM, Bob Kane wrote:


    FWIW, this is identical to to the ranking in the AMA Competition regulations:

    From the current AMA document (RCA-12):

    1. Precision of the maneuver.
    2. Smoothness and gracefulness of the maneuver. 
    3. Positioning or display of the maneuver.
    4. Size or dimensions of the maneuver relative to the maneuvering area, distance from the judges, and other maneuvers in the flight. 

    The above criteria are listed in order of importance; however, all of them must be met for a maneuver to be rated perfect. 

    Bob Kane getterflash at yahoo.com

    From: J N Hiller <jnhiller at earthlink.net>
    To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
    Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:51 AM
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to new FAIrules


    I would have thought positioning rated a higher precision aerobatics. Smoothness and gracefulness is polish.
    Jim

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    Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 6:06 PM
    To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
    Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to new FAIrules

    This will keep the list going (and the discussions too).  I recall Michael Ramel clearly discussing the future of the rules during the judges training at the World Championships at Muncie.  This was relating to smoothness and gracefulness being directly related to constant speed.  The following reflects what he discussed, as cited on page 35, and effect the way a score is awarded:

    Geometry:  50%
    Smoothness and Gracefulness: 25%
    Position of maneuver: 12.5%
    Size of maneuver: 12.5%
    Proportion of the maneuver outside the (box) in addition to above.

    The specific, objective criteria used to judge smoothness and gracefulness includes, "maintaining constant speed throughout various maneuver components, like climbing and decending sections..."

    Also the sentence about radii being very loose or very tight, even if equal size within a maneuver, are grounds for downgrade of smoothness and gracefulness.

    Cheers,
    Don


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