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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle45><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span
style='right:auto'>In rereading the AMA rule regarding smoothness and gracefulness
I don't see any reference to constant speed. The bulk of the information in the
single paragraph deals with geometric maneuver defects.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=Default><font size=3 color=red face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'>"A perfect set of consecutive rolls
should have a constant roll rate from start to finish. A perfect loop must have
a constant radius defining a perfect circle. It cannot be made up of a series
of straight flight increments joined with sudden angular jerks. Rotations in
the pitch axis of the model should be made evenly, and show a constant radius
as the model transitions from line to line. Higher marks should not be awarded
for flying tight, high-g corners."<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle45><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A single sentence
is consistent with the paragraph title </span></font></span><span
class=EmailStyle45><font color=red><span style='mso-ansi-font-size:12.0pt;
mso-ascii-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:red'>"</span></font></span><b><font
color=red><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;color:red;font-weight:bold'>b.
Smoothness and gracefulness. "</span></font></b><b><font size=2
color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext;
font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle45><font size=3 color=red
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-font-size:12.0pt;
mso-ascii-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:red'>"</span></font></span><font
color=red><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;color:red'>A most general
definition would relate to providing a smooth, flowing, polished appearance in
flight."<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This single sentence alone probably
wouldn't warrant a second place in judging criteria. Looks like the paragraph
may be mislabeled.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle45><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>In
reviewing the NSRCA judging certification test I don't see anything regarding
constant speed, but I'm getting old and may have missed something.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle45><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>In any
case I'll fly as I've always tried too, crisp and precise, regardless of how
its judged, because it pleases me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle45><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle45><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bob Kane<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 31, 2012
6:19 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Another discussion topic relating to newFAIrules</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>FWIW,
this is identical to to the ranking in the AMA Competition regulations:</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'></span><span
style='right:auto'> </div>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>
<div style='right:auto'><span style='right:auto'>From the current AMA document
(RCA-12):</span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
</font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>
<div style='right:auto'><span style='right:auto'> </div>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white;mso-layout-grid-align:
none'><b style='right:auto'><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold'>1.</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Precision of the
maneuver.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white;mso-layout-grid-align:
none'><b><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold'>2.</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Smoothness and
gracefulness of the maneuver. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white;mso-layout-grid-align:
none'><b><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold'>3.</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Positioning or
display of the maneuver.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white;mso-layout-grid-align:
none'><b><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold'>4. </span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Size or
dimensions of the maneuver relative to the maneuvering area, distance from the
judges, and other maneuvers in the flight. </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;color:black'>The above criteria are listed in order of importance;
however, all of them must be met for a maneuver to be rated perfect. </span></span></font><font
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Bob
Kane getterflash@yahoo.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> J N Hiller <jnhiller@earthlink.net><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 31, 2012
3:51 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Another discussion topic relating to new FAIrules</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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3.75pt;margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span class=yiv458482347emailstyle15><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>
<div id=yiv458482347>I would have thought positioning rated a higher precision
aerobatics. Smoothness and gracefulness is polish.</span></font></span><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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3.75pt;margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span class=yiv458482347emailstyle15><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Jim</span></font></span><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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3.75pt;margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span class=yiv458482347emailstyle15><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font></span><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>tocdon@netscape.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 30, 2012
6:06 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion]
Another discussion topic relating to new FAIrules</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>This will keep the list
going (and the discussions too). I recall Michael Ramel clearly
discussing the future of the rules during the judges training at the World
Championships at Muncie. This was relating to smoothness and
gracefulness being directly related to constant speed. The following
reflects what he discussed, as cited on page 35, and effect the way a score is
awarded:</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Geometry: 50%</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Smoothness and
Gracefulness: 25%</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Position of maneuver:
12.5%</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Size of maneuver: 12.5%</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Proportion of the
maneuver outside the (box) in addition to above.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>The specific, objective
criteria used to judge smoothness and gracefulness includes, "maintaining
constant speed throughout various maneuver components, like climbing and
decending sections..."</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Also the sentence about
radii being very loose or very tight, even if equal size within
a maneuver, are grounds for downgrade of smoothness and gracefulness.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Cheers,</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Don</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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