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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle45><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span
style='right:auto'>In rereading the AMA rule regarding smoothness and gracefulness
I don't see any reference to constant speed. The bulk of the information in the
single paragraph deals with geometric maneuver defects.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=Default><font size=3 color=red face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'>&quot;A perfect set of consecutive rolls
should have a constant roll rate from start to finish. A perfect loop must have
a constant radius defining a perfect circle. It cannot be made up of a series
of straight flight increments joined with sudden angular jerks. Rotations in
the pitch axis of the model should be made evenly, and show a constant radius
as the model transitions from line to line. Higher marks should not be awarded
for flying tight, high-g corners.&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle45><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A single sentence
is consistent with the paragraph title </span></font></span><span
class=EmailStyle45><font color=red><span style='mso-ansi-font-size:12.0pt;
mso-ascii-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:red'>&quot;</span></font></span><b><font
color=red><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;color:red;font-weight:bold'>b.
Smoothness and gracefulness. &quot;</span></font></b><b><font size=2
color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext;
font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle45><font size=3 color=red
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-font-size:12.0pt;
mso-ascii-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:red'>&quot;</span></font></span><font
color=red><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;color:red'>A most general
definition would relate to providing a smooth, flowing, polished appearance in
flight.&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This single sentence alone probably
wouldn't warrant a second place in judging criteria. Looks like the paragraph
may be mislabeled.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle45><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>In
reviewing the NSRCA judging certification test I don't see anything regarding
constant speed, but I'm getting old and may have missed something.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle45><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>In any
case I'll fly as I've always tried too, crisp and precise, regardless of how
its judged, because it pleases me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle45><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle45><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bob Kane<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 31, 2012
6:19 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Another discussion topic relating to newFAIrules</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>FWIW,
this is identical to to the ranking in the AMA Competition regulations:</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>

<div style='right:auto'><span style='right:auto'>From the current AMA document
(RCA-12):</span><o:p></o:p></span></div>

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<div style='right:auto'><span style='right:auto'>&nbsp;</div>

<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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none'><b style='right:auto'><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold'>1.</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Precision of the
maneuver.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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none'><b><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold'>2.</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Smoothness and
gracefulness of the maneuver. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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none'><b><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold'>3.</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Positioning or
display of the maneuver.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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none'><b><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold'>4. </span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Size or
dimensions of the maneuver relative to the maneuvering area, distance from the
judges, and other maneuvers in the flight. </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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none'><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;color:black'>The&nbsp;above criteria are listed in order of importance;
however, all of them must be met for a maneuver to be rated perfect. </span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Bob
Kane getterflash@yahoo.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> J N Hiller &lt;jnhiller@earthlink.net&gt;<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion
&lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt; <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 31, 2012
3:51 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Another discussion topic relating to new FAIrules</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span class=yiv458482347emailstyle15><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>

<div id=yiv458482347>I would have thought positioning rated a higher precision
aerobatics. Smoothness and gracefulness is polish.</span></font></span><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span class=yiv458482347emailstyle15><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Jim</span></font></span><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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3.75pt;margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span class=yiv458482347emailstyle15><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></span><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>tocdon@netscape.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 30, 2012
6:06 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion]
Another discussion topic relating to new FAIrules</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>This will keep the list
going (and the discussions too).&nbsp; I recall Michael Ramel clearly
discussing the future of the rules during the judges training at the World
Championships at Muncie.&nbsp; This was&nbsp;relating to smoothness and
gracefulness being directly related to constant speed.&nbsp; The following
reflects what he discussed, as cited on page 35, and effect the way a score is
awarded:</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Geometry:&nbsp; 50%</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Smoothness and
Gracefulness: 25%</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Position of maneuver:
12.5%</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Size of maneuver: 12.5%</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Proportion of the
maneuver outside the (box) in addition to above.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>The specific, objective
criteria used to judge smoothness and gracefulness includes, &quot;maintaining
constant speed throughout various maneuver components, like climbing and
decending sections...&quot;</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Also the sentence about
radii being very loose or&nbsp;very tight, even if&nbsp;equal size&nbsp;within
a maneuver,&nbsp;are grounds for downgrade of smoothness and gracefulness.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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3.75pt;margin-left:1.0in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Cheers,</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Don</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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