[NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to newFAIrules

[Peter Vogel]

Well said!

Regarding constant speed -- isn't that essentially impossible in any
routine that includes a spin?  I'm just flying sportsman, but it seems to
me watching the Intermediate + above routines, that the plane comes to a
near stop before dropping into the spin.  But that in itself is graceful
:-)  Other maneuvers, however, definitely look better to my eye when
performed at a constant speed while maintaining appropriate geometry.

Peter+


In any case I'll fly as I've always tried too, crisp and precise,
> regardless of how its judged, because it pleases me.****
>
> Jim****
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> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]*On Behalf Of *Bob Kane
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:19 AM
> *To:* General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to
> newFAIrules
>
> ** ******
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> FWIW, this is identical to to the ranking in the AMA Competition
> regulations:****
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> ****
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> From the current AMA document (RCA-12):****
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> ****
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>  *1.* Precision of the maneuver.****
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> *2.* Smoothness and gracefulness of the maneuver. ****
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> *3.* Positioning or display of the maneuver.****
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> *4. *Size or dimensions of the maneuver relative to the maneuvering area,
> distance from the judges, and other maneuvers in the flight. ****
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> ****
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> The above criteria are listed in order of importance; however, all of them
> must be met for a maneuver to be rated perfect. ****
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>  ****
>
> Bob Kane getterflash at yahoo.com****
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> * *
> * From:* J N Hiller <jnhiller at earthlink.net>
> *To:* General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:51 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to
> new FAIrules****
>
> ** ******
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> I would have thought positioning rated a higher precision aerobatics.
> Smoothness and gracefulness is polish.
> ****
>
> Jim****
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>  ****
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]*On Behalf Of *
> tocdon at netscape.net
> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2012 6:06 PM
> *To:* nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to new
> FAIrules****
>
>  ****
>
> This will keep the list going (and the discussions too).  I recall Michael
> Ramel clearly discussing the future of the rules during the judges training
> at the World Championships at Muncie.  This was relating to smoothness and
> gracefulness being directly related to constant speed.  The following
> reflects what he discussed, as cited on page 35, and effect the way a score
> is awarded:****
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>  ****
>
> Geometry:  50%****
>
> Smoothness and Gracefulness: 25%****
>
> Position of maneuver: 12.5%****
>
> Size of maneuver: 12.5%****
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> Proportion of the maneuver outside the (box) in addition to above.****
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>  ****
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> The specific, objective criteria used to judge smoothness and gracefulness
> includes, "maintaining constant speed throughout various maneuver
> components, like climbing and decending sections..."****
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>  ****
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> Also the sentence about radii being very loose or very tight, even
> if equal size within a maneuver, are grounds for downgrade of smoothness
> and gracefulness.****
>
>  ****
>
> Cheers,****
>
> Don****
>
>  ****
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