[NSRCA-discussion] Aresti Question

John Gayer jgghome at comcast.net
Fri Dec 14 11:57:17 AKST 2012


Thanks, Scott
Sounds like an item for the judging committee to consider then.
John
On 12/14/2012 1:41 PM, Scott McHarg wrote:
> We can make a diagram or maneuver look however you want it.  It's not 
> super easy but it can be done.  The software allows us to design our 
> own maneuver or use templates.  There are some other experts out there 
> that are better than I am with the Aresti software.  What you ask for 
> can be done however.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM, John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net 
> <mailto:jgghome at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
>     Scott,
>     I know you are reading this.
>     In the standard Aresti s/w we have, can you add new maneuvers,
>     such as a roll with an "S" where the "4" would be for a four
>     point? Of course we would get some folks doing five point rolls
>     and wondering what the zero  was for. :)
>     John
>     On 12/14/2012 12:58 PM, J N Hiller wrote:
>
>         Yes I know. Would it be possible for us to deviate from IAC by
>         adding
>         another similar but different symbol to identify a slow roll.
>         The rest of the sequence is well defined in the Aresti diagram
>         without the
>         written description. Its always been this way. Does it need to
>         continue? If
>         so I submit and will continue to reference both. Not a
>         problem. Just
>         requires both.
>         Jim
>
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
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>         [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>         <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>]On Behalf Of
>         Jack Keiser
>         Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 11:37 AM
>         To: General pattern discussion
>         Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Aresti Question
>
>         There is no "slow roll" in IAC. The roll rate is not specified
>         but is
>         usually about 1-2 sec/360 deg. Slower rolls use up too much
>         box and you're
>         usually struggling  to stay in the box. Varying roll rate and
>         heading and
>         pitch changes are the usual downgrades.
>
>         On Dec 14, 2012, at 11:35, John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net
>         <mailto:jgghome at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
>             Jim,
>             To my knowledge, the answer is no. In Aresti a roll is a
>             roll is a roll.
>             In the case of this unknown, Scott McHarg designed the
>             pattern for us and
>
>         provided scoresheets as well as the Aresti. The scoresheet
>         identified that
>         roll on a horizontal line as a slow roll.
>
>             I don't know any other way.  Aresti for Sportsman and
>             Advanced shows the
>
>         same roll but the descriptions differ.
>
>             John
>             On 12/14/2012 10:31 AM, J N Hiller wrote:
>
>                 I'll ask here because others may be interested.
>
>                 I got impatient waiting fore the November K-Factor and
>                 began reading the
>                 E-version.
>
>                 Following the "Rocky Mountain Fall pattern Challenge
>                 Unknown Sequence"
>                 Aresti diagram #7 I assume is a slow roll but the roll
>                 symbol is the same
>                 for an aileron roll. I don't know that IAC flies two
>                 different roll
>
>         rates.
>
>                 Is there any way to identify these two different rolls
>                 in the diagrams we
>                 use?
>
>                 Jim Hiller
>
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