[NSRCA-discussion] Aresti Question

Jon Carter joncarter60 at comcast.net
Fri Dec 14 11:58:09 AKST 2012


I can do that but it is non-standard.

Jon Carter

Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com> wrote:

>We can make a diagram or maneuver look however you want it.  It's not
>super
>easy but it can be done.  The software allows us to design our own
>maneuver
>or use templates.  There are some other experts out there that are
>better
>than I am with the Aresti software.  What you ask for can be done
>however.
>
>Scott
>
>
>On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM, John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>> Scott,
>> I know you are reading this.
>> In the standard Aresti s/w we have, can you add new maneuvers, such
>as a
>> roll with an "S" where the "4" would be for a four point? Of course
>we
>> would get some folks doing five point rolls and wondering what the
>zero
>>  was for. :)
>> John
>> On 12/14/2012 12:58 PM, J N Hiller wrote:
>>
>>> Yes I know. Would it be possible for us to deviate from IAC by
>adding
>>> another similar but different symbol to identify a slow roll.
>>> The rest of the sequence is well defined in the Aresti diagram
>without the
>>> written description. Its always been this way. Does it need to
>continue?
>>> If
>>> so I submit and will continue to reference both. Not a problem. Just
>>> requires both.
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Aresti Question
>>>
>>> There is no "slow roll" in IAC. The roll rate is not specified but
>is
>>> usually about 1-2 sec/360 deg. Slower rolls use up too much box and
>you're
>>> usually struggling  to stay in the box. Varying roll rate and
>heading and
>>> pitch changes are the usual downgrades.
>>>
>>> On Dec 14, 2012, at 11:35, John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Jim,
>>>> To my knowledge, the answer is no. In Aresti a roll is a roll is a
>roll.
>>>> In the case of this unknown, Scott McHarg designed the pattern for
>us and
>>>>
>>> provided scoresheets as well as the Aresti. The scoresheet
>identified that
>>> roll on a horizontal line as a slow roll.
>>>
>>>> I don't know any other way.  Aresti for Sportsman and Advanced
>shows the
>>>>
>>> same roll but the descriptions differ.
>>>
>>>> John
>>>> On 12/14/2012 10:31 AM, J N Hiller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'll ask here because others may be interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got impatient waiting fore the November K-Factor and began
>reading the
>>>>> E-version.
>>>>>
>>>>> Following the "Rocky Mountain Fall pattern Challenge Unknown
>Sequence"
>>>>> Aresti diagram #7 I assume is a slow roll but the roll symbol is
>the
>>>>> same
>>>>> for an aileron roll. I don't know that IAC flies two different
>roll
>>>>>
>>>> rates.
>>>
>>>> Is there any way to identify these two different rolls in the
>diagrams we
>>>>> use?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim Hiller
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