[NSRCA-discussion] Aresti Question

Scott McHarg scmcharg at gmail.com
Fri Dec 14 11:41:05 AKST 2012


We can make a diagram or maneuver look however you want it.  It's not super
easy but it can be done.  The software allows us to design our own maneuver
or use templates.  There are some other experts out there that are better
than I am with the Aresti software.  What you ask for can be done however.

Scott


On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM, John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net> wrote:

> Scott,
> I know you are reading this.
> In the standard Aresti s/w we have, can you add new maneuvers, such as a
> roll with an "S" where the "4" would be for a four point? Of course we
> would get some folks doing five point rolls and wondering what the zero
>  was for. :)
> John
> On 12/14/2012 12:58 PM, J N Hiller wrote:
>
>> Yes I know. Would it be possible for us to deviate from IAC by adding
>> another similar but different symbol to identify a slow roll.
>> The rest of the sequence is well defined in the Aresti diagram without the
>> written description. Its always been this way. Does it need to continue?
>> If
>> so I submit and will continue to reference both. Not a problem. Just
>> requires both.
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-**bounces at lists.nsrca.org<nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>]On
>> Behalf Of Jack Keiser
>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 11:37 AM
>> To: General pattern discussion
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Aresti Question
>>
>> There is no "slow roll" in IAC. The roll rate is not specified but is
>> usually about 1-2 sec/360 deg. Slower rolls use up too much box and you're
>> usually struggling  to stay in the box. Varying roll rate and heading and
>> pitch changes are the usual downgrades.
>>
>> On Dec 14, 2012, at 11:35, John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Jim,
>>> To my knowledge, the answer is no. In Aresti a roll is a roll is a roll.
>>> In the case of this unknown, Scott McHarg designed the pattern for us and
>>>
>> provided scoresheets as well as the Aresti. The scoresheet identified that
>> roll on a horizontal line as a slow roll.
>>
>>> I don't know any other way.  Aresti for Sportsman and Advanced shows the
>>>
>> same roll but the descriptions differ.
>>
>>> John
>>> On 12/14/2012 10:31 AM, J N Hiller wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll ask here because others may be interested.
>>>>
>>>> I got impatient waiting fore the November K-Factor and began reading the
>>>> E-version.
>>>>
>>>> Following the "Rocky Mountain Fall pattern Challenge Unknown Sequence"
>>>> Aresti diagram #7 I assume is a slow roll but the roll symbol is the
>>>> same
>>>> for an aileron roll. I don't know that IAC flies two different roll
>>>>
>>> rates.
>>
>>> Is there any way to identify these two different rolls in the diagrams we
>>>> use?
>>>>
>>>> Jim Hiller
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*Scott A. McHarg*
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