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Thanks, Scott<br>
Sounds like an item for the judging committee to consider then.<br>
John<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/14/2012 1:41 PM, Scott McHarg
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cite="mid:CALDH1Uo3zP2=9XESoRZhdw08Ef--5jnkgqPsSQguUOqo3DkOAg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">We can make a diagram or maneuver look however you
want it. It's not super easy but it can be done. The software
allows us to design our own maneuver or use templates. There are
some other experts out there that are better than I am with the
Aresti software. What you ask for can be done however.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM, John
Gayer <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Scott,<br>
I know you are reading this.<br>
In the standard Aresti s/w we have, can you add new
maneuvers, such as a roll with an "S" where the "4" would be
for a four point? Of course we would get some folks doing
five point rolls and wondering what the zero was for. :)<br>
John<br>
On 12/14/2012 12:58 PM, J N Hiller wrote:<br>
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Yes I know. Would it be possible for us to deviate from
IAC by adding<br>
another similar but different symbol to identify a slow
roll.<br>
The rest of the sequence is well defined in the Aresti
diagram without the<br>
written description. Its always been this way. Does it
need to continue? If<br>
so I submit and will continue to reference both. Not a
problem. Just<br>
requires both.<br>
Jim<br>
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There is no "slow roll" in IAC. The roll rate is not
specified but is<br>
usually about 1-2 sec/360 deg. Slower rolls use up too
much box and you're<br>
usually struggling to stay in the box. Varying roll rate
and heading and<br>
pitch changes are the usual downgrades.<br>
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On Dec 14, 2012, at 11:35, John Gayer <<a
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Jim,<br>
To my knowledge, the answer is no. In Aresti a roll is a
roll is a roll.<br>
In the case of this unknown, Scott McHarg designed the
pattern for us and<br>
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provided scoresheets as well as the Aresti. The scoresheet
identified that<br>
roll on a horizontal line as a slow roll.<br>
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I don't know any other way. Aresti for Sportsman and
Advanced shows the<br>
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same roll but the descriptions differ.<br>
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John<br>
On 12/14/2012 10:31 AM, J N Hiller wrote:<br>
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I'll ask here because others may be interested.<br>
<br>
I got impatient waiting fore the November K-Factor and
began reading the<br>
E-version.<br>
<br>
Following the "Rocky Mountain Fall pattern Challenge
Unknown Sequence"<br>
Aresti diagram #7 I assume is a slow roll but the roll
symbol is the same<br>
for an aileron roll. I don't know that IAC flies two
different roll<br>
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rates.<br>
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Is there any way to identify these two different rolls
in the diagrams we<br>
use?<br>
<br>
Jim Hiller<br>
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