[NSRCA-discussion] Retracts?

[PhilS.]

Man, ya got dat right!!!

Phil Spelt, KCRC President
AMA 1294 Scientific Leader Member
SPA 177 Board Member
(865)435-1476v, (865)604-0541c


On 12/8/2012 11:51 PM, Robert Gainey wrote:
> It all depends on what wins and who is flying it ! Lets say for 
> example, any one of the top ten pilots wins the world championships 
> with a YS powered bi-plane equipped with retracts and counter rotating 
> props. There's going to be a /_lot of used fixed gear electric powered 
> monoplanes on the market_/ !
>
> --- On *Sun, 12/9/12, Dave Harmon /<k6xyz at sbcglobal.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Dave Harmon <k6xyz at sbcglobal.net>
>     Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Retracts?
>     To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>     Date: Sunday, December 9, 2012, 3:18 AM
>
>     I love em' both....
>
>     Dave Harmon
>     NSRCA 586
>     K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
>     Sperry, Ok.
>
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>     On Behalf Of shinden1 at cox.net
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>     Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 8:54 PM
>     To: General pattern discussion
>     Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Retracts?
>
>     Well, there goes that excuse ! :)
>     Bryan
>     ---- Ryan Smith <smaragdz at comcast.net
>     <http://us.mc1408.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=smaragdz@comcast.net>>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > Sent from my iPhone
>     >
>     > On Dec 8, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Astropattern <astropattern at yahoo.com
>     <http://us.mc1408.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=astropattern@yahoo.com>>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     > > Also because as the engines/motors evolved more power, the
>     props got longer and the need for longer ground clearance was
>     going beyond what single-wire retracts could handle.
>     > >
>     > > John
>     > >
>     > > Sent from my iPad
>     > >
>     > > On Dec 8, 2012, at 7:32 PM, "Dave Harmon" <k6xyz at sbcglobal.net
>     <http://us.mc1408.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=k6xyz@sbcglobal.net>>
>     wrote:
>     > >
>     > >> ....and weight.
>     > >>
>     > >> Dave Harmon
>     > >> NSRCA 586
>     > >> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
>     > >> Sperry, Ok.
>     > >>
>     > >> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
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>     On Behalf Of PhilS.
>     > >> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 7:10 PM
>     > >> To: Mark Aulfinger; General pattern discussion
>     > >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Retracts?
>     > >>
>     > >> I think it has to do with the new style of flying -- slower,
>     and especially trying to keep the down lines no faster than the
>     horizontal lines.  Dirty airframes provide more drag.  Also, no
>     retracts leads to less mechanical complexity, and one less point
>     of failure.  But, I think the drag thingy is the main point...
>     > >>
>     > >> Phil Spelt, KCRC President
>     > >> AMA 1294 Scientific Leader Member
>     > >> SPA 177 Board Member
>     > >> (865)435-1476v, (865)604-0541c
>     > >>
>     > >> On 12/8/2012 7:41 PM, Mark Aulfinger wrote:
>     > >> Hi All,
>     > >>
>     > >> Long time lurker on this message board. Wanted to ask why modern
>     > >> pattern planes don't have retracts? There's no doubt a good
>     reason
>     > >> that no one uses them anymore. Just curious why...I like the
>     looks of a plane with the gear tucked away.
>     > >>
>     > >> Thanks in advance for any replies,
>     > >> Mark
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>
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