[NSRCA-discussion] Retracts?

[shinden1 at cox.net]

That is Correct for the most part,
But there are different levels of ability ,and different levels of competition.
And in that arena, is where advantages are taken,and disadvantages taken advantage of.
What happens downstream is just the nature of the sport and what keeps it fun.

Bryan

 


---- Astropattern <astropattern at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> More so, it's about whatever turns your crank. There's no accounting for individual preference or willpower, regardless of whether it is simplest, easiest to build, light enough, most competitive, or even still available.
> Just makes it interesting.
> 
> Very wise old pattern flier once told me..."you are competitive if you practice and if you can keep your s*** together for six rounds"...of course, in the days of 2-strokes, 4-strokes, retracts, fuel pumps, etc, it was harder to keep it together because there was so much more to go wrong.
> 
> The planes we have today are what they are because they are simpler and more reliable, while taking advantage of better power to gain some aerodynamic advantages, and in some cases afford us the ability to ignore the effects what used to be seen as a disadvantage, or turn them into an advantage (ie; fixed gear).
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Dec 8, 2012, at 10:51 PM, Robert Gainey <ruddercable at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > It all depends on what wins and who is flying it ! Lets say for example, any one of the top ten pilots wins the world championships with a YS powered bi-plane equipped with retracts and counter rotating props. There's going to be a lot of used fixed gear electric powered monoplanes on the market !  
> > 
> > --- On Sun, 12/9/12, Dave Harmon <k6xyz at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > 
> > From: Dave Harmon <k6xyz at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Retracts?
> > To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > Date: Sunday, December 9, 2012, 3:18 AM
> > 
> > I love em' both....
> > 
> > Dave Harmon
> > NSRCA 586
> > K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
> > Sperry, Ok.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of shinden1 at cox.net
> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 8:54 PM
> > To: General pattern discussion
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Retracts?
> > 
> > Well, there goes that excuse ! :)
> > Bryan
> > ---- Ryan Smith <smaragdz at comcast.net> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > 
> > > On Dec 8, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Astropattern <astropattern at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Also because as the engines/motors evolved more power, the props got longer and the need for longer ground clearance was going beyond what single-wire retracts could handle.
> > > > 
> > > > John
> > > > 
> > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > > 
> > > > On Dec 8, 2012, at 7:32 PM, "Dave Harmon" <k6xyz at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >> ….and weight.
> > > >>  
> > > >> Dave Harmon
> > > >> NSRCA 586
> > > >> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
> > > >> Sperry, Ok.
> > > >>  
> > > >> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of PhilS.
> > > >> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 7:10 PM
> > > >> To: Mark Aulfinger; General pattern discussion
> > > >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Retracts?
> > > >>  
> > > >> I think it has to do with the new style of flying -- slower, and especially trying to keep the down lines no faster than the horizontal lines.  Dirty airframes provide more drag.  Also, no retracts leads to less mechanical complexity, and one less point of failure.  But, I think the drag thingy is the main point...
> > > >> 
> > > >> Phil Spelt, KCRC President
> > > >> AMA 1294 Scientific Leader Member
> > > >> SPA 177 Board Member
> > > >> (865)435-1476v, (865)604-0541c
> > > >> 
> > > >> On 12/8/2012 7:41 PM, Mark Aulfinger wrote:
> > > >> Hi All,
> > > >> 
> > > >> Long time lurker on this message board. Wanted to ask why modern 
> > > >> pattern planes don't have retracts? There's no doubt a good reason 
> > > >> that no one uses them anymore. Just curious why...I like the looks of a plane with the gear tucked away.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Thanks in advance for any replies,
> > > >> Mark
> > > >> 
> > > >>  
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