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<font face="Arial">Man, ya got dat right!!!</font><br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Phil Spelt, KCRC President
AMA 1294 Scientific Leader Member
SPA 177 Board Member
(865)435-1476v, (865)604-0541c</pre>
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On 12/8/2012 11:51 PM, Robert Gainey wrote:
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<div>It all depends on what wins and who is flying it ! Lets
say for example, any one of the top ten pilots wins the world
championships with a YS powered bi-plane equipped with retracts and
counter rotating props. There's going to be a <i><u>lot of used fixed
gear electric powered monoplanes on the market</u></i> ! <img
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--- On <b>Sun, 12/9/12, Dave Harmon <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:k6xyz@sbcglobal.net"><k6xyz@sbcglobal.net></a></i></b>
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From: Dave Harmon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:k6xyz@sbcglobal.net"><k6xyz@sbcglobal.net></a><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Retracts?<br>
To: "'General pattern discussion'"
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Date: Sunday, December 9, 2012, 3:18 AM<br>
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<div class="plainMail">I love em' both....<br>
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Dave Harmon<br>
NSRCA 586<br>
K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net<br>
Sperry, Ok.<br>
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Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 8:54 PM<br>
To: General pattern discussion<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Retracts?<br>
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Well, there goes that excuse ! :)<br>
Bryan<br>
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> <br>
> <br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
> <br>
> On Dec 8, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Astropattern <<a
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> > Also because as the engines/motors evolved more power, the
props got longer and the need for longer ground clearance was going
beyond what single-wire retracts could handle.<br>
> > <br>
> > John<br>
> > <br>
> > Sent from my iPad<br>
> > <br>
> > On Dec 8, 2012, at 7:32 PM, "Dave Harmon" <<a
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> > <br>
> >> ….and weight.<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Dave Harmon<br>
> >> NSRCA 586<br>
> >> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net<br>
> >> Sperry, Ok.<br>
> >> <br>
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On Behalf Of PhilS.<br>
> >> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 7:10 PM<br>
> >> To: Mark Aulfinger; General pattern discussion<br>
> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Retracts?<br>
> >> <br>
> >> I think it has to do with the new style of flying --
slower, and especially trying to keep the down lines no faster than the
horizontal lines. Dirty airframes provide more drag. Also, no
retracts leads to less mechanical complexity, and one less point of
failure. But, I think the drag thingy is the main point...<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Phil Spelt, KCRC President<br>
> >> AMA 1294 Scientific Leader Member<br>
> >> SPA 177 Board Member<br>
> >> (865)435-1476v, (865)604-0541c<br>
> >> <br>
> >> On 12/8/2012 7:41 PM, Mark Aulfinger wrote:<br>
> >> Hi All,<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Long time lurker on this message board. Wanted to ask why
modern <br>
> >> pattern planes don't have retracts? There's no doubt a
good reason <br>
> >> that no one uses them anymore. Just curious why...I like
the looks of a plane with the gear tucked away.<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Thanks in advance for any replies,<br>
> >> Mark<br>
> >> <br>
> >> <br>
> >> <br>
> >> <br>
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