[NSRCA-discussion] M

[Archie Stafford]

The wings are knife-edge at the bottom.

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On Sep 23, 2009, at 9:55 PM, "Vicente \"Vince\" Bortone" <vicenterc at comcast.net 
 > wrote:

> I am behind.  Does the fully integrated half roll has to cover the  
> complete 1/2 loop on bottom?  Therefore, the wings needs to be at 45  
> degrees in the lower point?
>
> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Woodward (US SSA)" <jim.woodward at baesystems.com>
> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
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>
> Thanks Dave,
>
> I was falling back to the position that all rolls in a maneuver have  
> to match roll rates (excluding point rolls).  It would be easier to  
> perform the maneuver if the ½ roll integrated in the ½ loop does not 
>  have to match the other roll rates.
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- 
> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:43 PM
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> I don’t believe there is a requirement (in FAI) for the rate of the  
> ½ roll to match the rate of the 1/4rolls.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave
>
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- 
> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Woodward, Jim (US  
> SSA)
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:29 PM
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] M
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> It will also be difficult to match the roll-rates of the non-point  
> roll elements.
> jim
>
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- 
> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of J Shu
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:18 PM
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] M
>
> roll direction is not specified, chose the way you prefer
>
> Regards,
> Jason
> www.shulmanaviation.com
> www.composite-arf.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: GEORGE KENNIE
> To: General pattern discussion
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:13 PM
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] M
>
>
>
>
> I need a little help understanding the correct execution of the # 1  
> Maneuver in P-11.
>
> The Aresti shows the model approaching from the left. As the first  
> radius is completed and the model assumes a vertical track,
> the requirement is to execute 3 points of a 4 point roll centered on  
> the upline with the stall turn executed at the apex of the line.
> Due to the fact that I like to present the canopy to the judges on  
> the stall I will roll left on the upline (trust me, I can do it  
> either way
> and I realize there is no mandate, it's just my own aesthetic  
> preference).
> Now comes the sticky wicket,......on the down line I will be rolling  
> to the right in preparation for the entry radius into the integrated
> 1/2 outside. The fact that the 1/4 roll was also centered on the  
> downline will display that outside preparation position for the 1/2
> duration of the downline. My question is: .........as I enter the  
> bottom radius and start my roll, is there a roll direction  
> requirement?
> If I roll LEFT (which will present the canopy) the judges could  
> easily become confused and think that I'm doing an inside 1/2 loop
> at the bottom, which is really not the case as I had to push to  
> initiate the 1/2 loop. If I roll to the RIGHT the last 1/2 of the  
> loop looks
> like an inside 1/2 loop. So, I guess my basic question is, am I free  
> to roll according to my whim?
>
> I was unable to find any written FAI maneuver descriptions on our  
> site. Is there a link that I'm missing?
>
> Thanks Guys,
>
> Georgie
>
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