[NSRCA-discussion] M

[Vicente "Vince" Bortone]

I am behind.  Does the fully integrated half roll has to cover the complete 1/2 loop on bottom?  Therefore, the wings needs to be at 45 degrees in the lower point?  

Vicente "Vince" Bortone 

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From: "Jim Woodward (US SSA)" < jim . woodward @ baesystems .com> 
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Thanks Dave, 



I was falling back to the position that all rolls in a maneuver have to match roll rates (excluding point rolls).  It would be easier to perform the maneuver if the ½ roll integrated in the ½ loop does not have to match the other roll rates. 

Thanks, 

Jim 







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I don’t believe there is a requirement (in FAI) for the rate of the ½ roll to match the rate of the 1/4rolls. 



Regards, 


Dave 






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It will also be difficult to match the roll-rates of the non-point roll elements. 

jim 





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roll direction is not specified, chose the way you prefer 



Regards, 
Jason 
www.shulmanaviation.com 
www.composite-arf.com 




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From: GEORGE KENNIE 


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Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:13 PM 


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I need a little help understanding the correct execution of the # 1 Maneuver in P-11. 





The Aresti shows the model approaching from the left. As the first radius is completed and the model assumes a vertical track, 


the requirement is to execute 3 points of a 4 point roll centered on the upline with the stall turn executed at the apex of the line. 


Due to the fact that I like to present the canopy to the judges on the stall I will roll left on the upline (trust me, I can do it either way 


and I realize there is no mandate, it's just my own aesthetic preference). 


Now comes the sticky wicket,......on the down line I will be rolling to the right in preparation for the entry radius into the integrated 


1/2 outside. The fact that the 1/4 roll was also centered on the downline will display that outside preparation position for the 1/2 


duration of the downline. My question is: .........as I enter the bottom radius and start my roll, is there a roll direction requirement? 


If I roll LEFT (which will present the canopy) the judges could easily become confused and think that I'm doing an inside 1/2 loop 


at the bottom, which is really not the case as I had to push to initiate the 1/2 loop. If I roll to the RIGHT the last 1/2 of the loop looks 


like an inside 1/2 loop. So, I guess my basic question is, am I free to roll according to my whim?     





I was unable to find any written FAI maneuver descriptions on our site. Is there a link that I'm missing? 





Thanks Guys, 





Georgie 






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