[NSRCA-discussion] M

[AtwoodDon at aol.com]

Yes, the half roll should last thru the half loop and you need to be at  
knife-edge at the bottom of the center half loop.
Don
 
 
In a message dated 9/23/2009 6:55:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
vicenterc at comcast.net writes:

I am  behind.  Does the fully integrated half roll has to cover the  
complete 1/2 loop on bottom?  Therefore, the wings needs to be at 45  degrees in 
the lower point?  

Vicente "Vince" Bortone

-----  Original Message -----
From: "Jim Woodward (US SSA)"  <jim.woodward at baesystems.com>
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Thanks  Dave, 
I  was falling back to the position that all rolls in a maneuver have to 
match  roll rates (excluding point rolls).  It would be easier to perform the  
maneuver if the ½ roll integrated in the ½ loop does not have to match the  
other roll rates. 
Thanks, 
Jim 
 
 
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of  Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:43 PM
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I  don’t believe there is a requirement (in FAI) for the rate of the ½ roll 
to  match the rate of the 1/4rolls. 
Regards, 

Dave 
 
  
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of  Woodward, Jim (US SSA)
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It  will also be difficult to match the roll-rates of the non-point roll  
elements. 
jim
 
 
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of J  Shu
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:18 PM
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roll direction is not  specified, chose the way you prefer
 

Regards,
Jason
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----- Original  Message ----- 
 
From: _GEORGE KENNIE_ (mailto:geobet4 at verizon.net)  
 
To: _General pattern  discussion_ (mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org) 
 
 
Sent: Wednesday,  September 23, 2009 1:13 PM
 
Subject:  [NSRCA-discussion] M
 

 

 

 

 
I need a little  help understanding the correct execution of the # 1 
Maneuver in  P-11.
 

 
The Aresti shows  the model approaching from the left. As the first radius 
is completed and  the model assumes a vertical track,
 
the requirement  is to execute 3 points of a 4 point roll centered on the 
upline with  the stall turn executed at the apex of the line.
 
Due to the fact  that I like to present the canopy to the judges on the 
stall I will roll  left on the upline (trust me, I can do it either way
 
and I realize  there is no mandate, it's just my own aesthetic  preference).
 
Now comes the  sticky wicket,......on the down line I will be rolling to 
the right in  preparation for the entry radius into the integrated
 
1/2 outside. The  fact that the 1/4 roll was also centered on the downline 
will display that  outside preparation position for the 1/2 
 
duration of the  downline. My question is: .........as I enter the bottom 
radius and start my  roll, is there a roll direction requirement?
 
If I roll LEFT  (which will present the canopy) the judges could easily 
become confused and  think that I'm doing an inside 1/2 loop
 
at  the bottom, which is really not the case as I had to push to initiate  
the 1/2 loop. If I roll to the RIGHT the last 1/2 of the loop looks  
 
like an inside  1/2 loop. So, I guess my basic question is, am I free to 
roll according  to my whim?   
 

 
I was unable to  find any written FAI maneuver descriptions on our site. Is 
there a link that  I'm missing? 
 

 
Thanks  Guys,
 

 
Georgie
 

  
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