[NSRCA-discussion] unknowns

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 Hmmmm! You probably don't have kids, especially teenagers. The teens would tell you you have no experience and don't know nuthin....and believe it (VBG)



MattK



 






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From: Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>

To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>

Sent: Wed, Sep 23, 2009 3:08 pm

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns



  
    I'm only 18 with 27 years of experience :)    Of course I'm at work, who has time for this at home?  Just don't tell my boss!    -----Original Message-----  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]   On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:08 PM  To: General pattern discussion  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns    I kinda wish that people like Mark didn't read my stuff quite so    carefully.  I also wonder why he isn't at work.  Hmmmm, maybe he is.     I'll never tell.    2111?  I'll only be 176 years old.    Ron VP    On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Atwood, Mark wrote:    > Only Ron...who was actually around in 1911, would plan to still be    > around in 2111 :)  >  > -----Original Message-----  > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-   > discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte  > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:5
 7 PM  > To: General pattern discussion  > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns  >  > I smile every time I think about this:  The F3A World Championships  > host gets a list of potential judges from which to pick.  The total  > list is  predominantly European judges.  Most F3A WCs end up with  > predominantly European judges. The preponderance of European judges  > dictates how judging will be done.   However, what if the list of  > judges for the 2111 F3A WC is mostly made up of a judge from the  > U.S., Canada, Mexico, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, China,  > Japan, Argentina, Venezuela, etc , such that it that it is NOT made  > up of predominantly European judges?  Who gets to pick the judges?  > As the host organization, the NSRCA does.  >  > Ron VP  >  > On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Don Ramsey wrote:  >  >> Matt,  >>  >> You will be disappointed to know that all the World Judges want to  &
 gt;> have rolling circles.  I objected strongly and thought I mad


e a  >> good argument; loss of fields, over houses, too much real estate,  >> etc.  But, they still want the rolling circles in all future  >> patterns and especially F patterns.  It sure limits the number of  >> fields that can fly those patterns unless the pilots decide to roll  >> in.  >>  >> Don  >>  >> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-  >> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of rcmaster199 at aol.com  >>  >> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:32 AM  >> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org  >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns  >>  >>  >>  >> It seems to me that we keep "learning" the same lessons but some  >> just never get the memo. Rolling circles are very neat  >> differentiating maneuvers BUT not desirable in neither IMAC nor  >> Pattern circles. They simply consume too much real estate and  >&g
 t; contradict the very essence of why we in Pattern moved to quiet our  >> models. Noise reduction footprint was at the core of that effort  >> some 25 years ago.  >>  >>  >>  >> As my good friend Dean Pappas and I have discussed on many  >> occasions, rolling loops, segments, variations, etc. are just as  >> neat as circles and consume no more footprint than the typical  >> schedule would. Oh BTW, these are far less difficult to judge  >> objectively  >>  >>  >>  >> MattK  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >> -----Original Message-----  >> From: Ed Alt <ed_alt at hotmail.com>  >> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org  >> Sent: Tue, Sep 22, 2009 10:08 pm  >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns  >>  >> It's funny.  I brought my 40% Carden out of mothballs last weekend  >> to work on the F3M stuff and all I wanted to do was 
 fly it like a  >> pattern airplane.  Ofcourse it doesn't quite


 measure up, but I  >> found that I really have no enthusiasm left for wapping through  >> rolls where the only skill involved is being able to stop on time.  >> I admit, on the last flight of the day I digressed and did about 10  >> minutes of 3d-ish garbage, until I finally realized that it was  >> really not very satisfying.  Foamies are more fun these days than  >> knocking the sticks around on a 40 % gasser.   I guess I'm just  >> getting old...  >>  >> Ed  >>  >>> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:44:06 -0700  >>> From: seefo at san.rr.com  >>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org  >>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns  >>>  >>> Vince,  >>>  >>> The "Slow Roll" in IAC does not equate to a pattern slow roll.  >> The IAC  >>> Slow Roll is just a roll, and the term slow is used to  >> differentiate it  >>> from a poin
 t roll or snap roll. In truth, the IAC slow roll is never  >>> flown at anything but maximum roll rate available.  >>>  >>> -Doug  >>>  >>>  >>>  >>>>  >>>>  >>>> Yes, partial rolling circles are introduced in the Intermediate  >>>> class. As we know, there is not way to do rollers by rolling fast.  >>>> IMAC is missing to introduce the slow roll in Sportsman's  >> class. I am  >>>> not sure why since IAC includes the slow roll.  >>>>  >>>>  >>>>  >>>  >>> _______________________________________________  >>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list  >>> NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org  >>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion  >>  >> Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign  >> up now. =  >>  >> ____
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