<div> Hmmmm! You probably don't have kids, especially teenagers. The teens would tell you you have no experience and don't know nuthin....and believe it (VBG)<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Atwood, Mark <atwoodm@paragon-inc.com><br>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Wed, Sep 23, 2009 3:08 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns<br>
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<div id="AOLMsgPart_0_837c8f5b-845e-4a00-a1bd-faecfb0bcd5a" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>I'm only 18 with 27 years of experience :) Of course I'm at work, who has time for this at home? Just don't tell my boss! -----Original Message----- From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:08 PM To: General pattern discussion Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns I kinda wish that people like Mark didn't read my stuff quite so carefully. I also wonder why he isn't at work. Hmmmm, maybe he is. I'll never tell. 2111? I'll only be 176 years old. Ron VP On Sep 23,
2009, at 1:50 PM, Atwood, Mark wrote: > Only Ron...who was actually around in 1911, would plan to still be > around in 2111 :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-?">mailto:nsrca-</a> > <a href="mailto:discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:57 PM > To: General pattern discussion > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns > > I smile every time I think about this: The F3A World Championships > host gets a list of potential judges from which to pick. The total > list is predominantly European judges. Most F3A WCs end up with > predominantly European judges. The preponderance of European judges > dictates how judging will be done. However, what if the list of > judges for the
2111 F3A WC is mostly made up of a judge from the > U.S., Canad
a, Mexico, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, China, > Japan, Argentina, Venezuela, etc , such that it that it is NOT made > up of predominantly European judges? Who gets to pick the judges? > As the host organization, the NSRCA does. > > Ron VP > > On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Don Ramsey wrote: > >> Matt, >> >> You will be disappointed to know that all the World Judges want to >> have rolling circles. I objected strongly and thought I made a >> good argument; loss of fields, over houses, too much real estate, >> etc. But, they still want the rolling circles in all future >> patterns and especially F patterns. It sure limits the number of >> fields that can fly those patterns unless the pilots decide to roll >> in. >> >> Don >> >> From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="
mailto:nsrca-?">mailto:nsrca-</a> >> <a href="mailto:discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of <a href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</a> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:32 AM >> To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns >> >> >> >> It seems to me that we keep "learning" the same lessons but some >> just never get the memo. Rolling circles are very neat >> differentiating maneuvers BUT not desirable in neither IMAC nor >> Pattern circles. They simply consume too much real estate and >> contradict the very essence of why we in Pattern moved to quiet our >> models. Noise reduction footprint was at the core of that effort >> some 25 years ago. >> >> >> >> As my good friend Dean P
appas and I have discussed on many >> occasions, rolling loop
s, segments, variations, etc. are just as >> neat as circles and consume no more footprint than the typical >> schedule would. Oh BTW, these are far less difficult to judge >> objectively >> >> >> >> MattK >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ed Alt <<a href="mailto:ed_alt@hotmail.com">ed_alt@hotmail.com</a>> >> To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> >> Sent: Tue, Sep 22, 2009 10:08 pm >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns >> >> It's funny. I brought my 40% Carden out of mothballs last weekend >> to work on the F3M stuff and all I wanted to do was fly it like a >> pattern airplane. Ofcourse it doesn't quite measure up, but I >> found that I really have no enthusiasm left for wapping through >> rolls where the only skill involved is bein
g able to stop on time. >> I admit, on the last flight of the day I digressed and did about 10 >> minutes of 3d-ish garbage, until I finally realized that it was >> really not very satisfying. Foamies are more fun these days than >> knocking the sticks around on a 40 % gasser. I guess I'm just >> getting old... >> >> Ed >> >>> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:44:06 -0700 >>> From: <a href="mailto:seefo@san.rr.com">seefo@san.rr.com</a> >>> To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> >>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns >>> >>> Vince, >>> >>> The "Slow Roll" in IAC does not equate to a pattern slow roll. >> The IAC >>> Slow Roll is just a roll, and the term slow is used to >> differentiate it >>> from a point roll or snap roll. In truth, the IAC slow roll is n
ever >>> flown at anything but maximum roll rate available
. >>> >>> -Doug >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, partial rolling circles are introduced in the Intermediate >>>> class. As we know, there is not way to do rollers by rolling fast. >>>> IMAC is missing to introduce the slow roll in Sportsman's >> class. I am >>>> not sure why since IAC includes the slow roll. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list >>> <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> >>> <a target="_blank" href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a> >> >> Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign >> up now. = >
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