[NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6 question

[John Gayer]

I'm not sure why it makes sense to place the burden of learning box 
management on the Sportsman flyer rather than the Intermediate flyer. 
 From what I've seen helping Sportsman flyers, exiting the box twice 
doesn't help much.  Where they need help is in the geometry and 
centering of maneuvers.
Any Sportsman flyer that can manage the box, turnaround maneuvers and 
centering plus execute the geometry should be in Intermediate.

John Gayer

Pete Cosky wrote:
> I would disagree about removing the turnarounds from Sportsman since 
> they have the opportunity to exit the box twice and get back on their 
> line. Those turnaround maneuvers teach where the box is and how to 
> manage the confines of it. If you remove the turnarounds then the move 
> to intermediate becomes much more difficult as now the newly moved 
> pilot would not only have to worry about turnarounds and center 
> maneuvers but also box management.
>  
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* John Gayer <mailto:jgghome at comcast.net>
>     *To:* General pattern discussion
>     <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:39 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6 question
>
>     As I recall, the ONLY reason AMA is now flying turnaround is
>     because F3A went to a turnaround format. The "powersthatwere" were
>     concerned that our team would not have the relevant experience to
>     compete on the world stage. This started a process of conversion
>     to turnaround by including the FAI pattern and then expert
>     turnaround in AMA pattern contests.
>     The pendulum has now swung the other way where the AMA pattern
>     community, while overly committed to turnaround, rejects the
>     patterns, rules and concepts of the FAI.
>
>     While I no longer see a need to use the current(or past schedule
>     as we have already done) F3A pattern as the Masters pattern, I
>     believe it is important to address whatever is new and challenging
>     in the upcoming F3A patterns and consider introducing similar
>     elements into the Masters pattern.
>
>     At the other end of the spectrum, I believe that the Sportsman
>     class should have the turnaround elements removed completely.
>     Perhaps some of the center maneuvers could be upgraded in
>     difficulty at the same time. The sportsman flyer needs more focus
>     on learning the maneuvers and where to place them. Making them fly
>     the box simply insures that they aree not in position to do a
>     proper center maneuver. This is not intended as a first step in
>     getting rid of turnaround but rather creating a progression in the
>     learning process.
>
>     John Gayer
>
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