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I'm not sure why it makes sense to place the burden of learning box
management on the Sportsman flyer rather than the Intermediate flyer.
>From what I've seen helping Sportsman flyers, exiting the box twice
doesn't help much. Where they need help is in the geometry and
centering of maneuvers. <br>
Any Sportsman flyer that can manage the box, turnaround maneuvers and
centering plus execute the geometry should be in Intermediate.<br>
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John Gayer<br>
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Pete Cosky wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I would disagree about removing the
turnarounds from Sportsman since they have the opportunity to exit the
box twice and get back on their line. Those turnaround maneuvers teach
where the box is and how to manage the confines of it. If you remove
the turnarounds then the move to intermediate becomes much more
difficult as now the newly moved pilot would not only have to worry
about turnarounds and center maneuvers but also box management.</font></div>
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As I recall, the ONLY reason AMA is now flying turnaround is because
F3A went to a turnaround format. The "powersthatwere" were concerned
that our team would not have the relevant experience to compete on the
world stage. This started a process of conversion to turnaround by
including the FAI pattern and then expert turnaround in AMA pattern
contests.<br>
The pendulum has now swung the other way where the AMA pattern
community, while overly committed to turnaround, rejects the patterns,
rules and concepts of the FAI.<br>
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While I no longer see a need to use the current(or past schedule as we
have already done) F3A pattern as the Masters pattern, I believe it is
important to address whatever is new and challenging in the upcoming
F3A patterns and consider introducing similar elements into the Masters
pattern.<br>
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At the other end of the spectrum, I believe that the Sportsman class
should have the turnaround elements removed completely. Perhaps some of
the center maneuvers could be upgraded in difficulty at the same time.
The sportsman flyer needs more focus on learning the maneuvers and
where to place them. Making them fly the box simply insures that they
aree not in position to do a proper center maneuver. This is not
intended as a first step in getting rid of turnaround but rather
creating a progression in the learning process.<br>
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John Gayer<br>
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