[NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls
mike mueller
mups1953 at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 24 09:07:22 AKDT 2008
Jim I think the snap looks better if you snap away from yourself. So from right to left snap to the right and from left to right the opposite.
Verne K. did the best 45 degree down 1.5 positive snap I've seen this last weekend. He has an intersting way of programming his Futaba 14MZ so that he can lead with elevator but when he goes to bury the sticks in the corners it backs off on the elevator. Net results are some pretty impressive looking snaps. Mike
--- On Wed, 9/24/08, J N Hiller <jnhiller at earthlink.net> wrote:
From: J N Hiller <jnhiller at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 11:10 AM
How about another serious question? In moving to masters (2009) I wonder about the 45 down 1 1/2 snap to inverted.
Is there a preferred direction?
Should the rudder be released after the 1 full snap to avoid pitching the nose down?
This may be the least of my problems but I would like to hear your views on this. Sometimes I feel like I need to re-learn straight and level flight but I am committed to moving up.
Thanks in advance.
Jim Hiller
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Verne Koester
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:42 PM
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Monster's been there all along. You just let him out......
Verne
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From: Ed Alt
To: aabdu at sbcglobal.net ; General pattern discussion
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls
I've created a monster...
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From: Anthony Abdullah
To: General pattern discussion
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:42 AM
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I like that idea!! The rudder could even be mixed to low throttle so each half moves in opposite directions for downline braking, or would that just cause the plane to spin, which could also be cool.
--- On Tue, 9/23/08, rcmaster199 at aol.com <rcmaster199 at aol.com> wrote:
From: rcmaster199 at aol.com <rcmaster199 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls
To: homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com, nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 11:30 AMWoa Ed....A one piece rudder wouldn't move much at all so how could it scrape the bench....who are you trying to chide?? That gives me an idea....maybe we should build elevators as 1 piece and rudders as 2 piece. Split rudders will eliminate any belly or canopy pitching. If each half was driven with a separate servo on separate channels, they might be programmed to move differentially and eliminate roll couple also. QED!! Just in case you forgot to trim your triangle, this is a simpler shearing of the hair Matt -----Original Message-----From: krishlan fitzsimmons <homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com>To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>Sent: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 1:46 amSubject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls Did you put the elevator upside down Ed? You have to make sure you put the non scraping side down.. Chris --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Ed Alt
<ed_alt at hotmail.com> wrote:From: Ed Alt <ed_alt at hotmail.com>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rollsTo: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 10:03 PM I just tried that. Something doesn't lookexactly right and the elevator is scraping the workbench now. What am Idoing wrong? Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: JShulman To: General pattern discussion Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls swap rudder with elevator Regards,Jasonwww.jasonshulman.comwww.shulmanaviation.comwww.composite-arf.com -----Original Message-----From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bob WilsonSent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:24 AMTo: General pattern discussionSubject: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap
rolls I'm probably opening this up for lots of discussion, but what is the correct technique for a snap? For an inside snap, I apply rudder a fraction before (same direction) aileron and up elevator. For an outside snap, I apply rudder a fraction before opposite aileron and down elevator. Problem is, I watch the big boys do snaps on my TOC videos and mine look so raggedy-ass. _______________________________________________NSRCA-discussion mailing listNSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.orghttp://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion_______________________________________________NSRCA-discussion mailing listNSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.orghttp://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion _______________________________________________NSRCA-discussion mailing
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