[NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls

[J N Hiller]

How about another serious question? In moving to masters (2009) I wonder
about the 45 down 1 1/2 snap to inverted.
Is there a preferred direction?
Should the rudder be released after the 1 full snap to avoid pitching the
nose down?
This may be the least of my problems but I would like to hear your views on
this. Sometimes I feel like I need to re-learn straight and level flight but
I am committed to moving up.
Thanks in advance.
Jim Hiller

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Verne Koester
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:42 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls

Monster's been there all along. You just let him out......

Verne


----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Alt <mailto:ed_alt at hotmail.com>
To: aabdu at sbcglobal.net <mailto:aabdu at sbcglobal.net>  ; General pattern
discussion <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:20 PM
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I've created a monster...
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Abdullah <mailto:aabdu at sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:42 AM
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I like that idea!! The rudder could even be mixed to low throttle so each
half moves in opposite directions for downline braking, or would that just
cause the plane to spin, which could also be cool.

--- On Tue, 9/23/08, rcmaster199 at aol.com <mailto:rcmaster199 at aol.com>  <
rcmaster199 at aol.com <mailto:rcmaster199 at aol.com> > wrote:
From: rcmaster199 at aol.com <mailto:rcmaster199 at aol.com>  <
rcmaster199 at aol.com <mailto:rcmaster199 at aol.com> >
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls
To: homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com, nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 11:30 AM
Woa Ed....A one piece rudder wouldn't move much at all so how could it
scrape the bench....who are you trying to chide??

That gives me an idea....maybe we should build elevators as 1 piece and
rudders as 2 piece. Split rudders will eliminate any belly or canopy
pitching. If each half was driven with a separate servo on separate
channels, they might be programmed to move differentially and eliminate
roll couple also. QED!!

Just in case you forgot to trim your triangle, this is a simpler
shearing of the hair

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: krishlan fitzsimmons <homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 1:46 am
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls

Did you put the elevator upside down Ed? You have to make sure you put
the non scraping side down..



Chris

--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Ed Alt &lt;ed_alt at hotmail.com&gt; wrote:
From: Ed Alt &lt;ed_alt at hotmail.com&gt;
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls
To: "General pattern discussion"
&lt;nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org&gt;
Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 10:03 PM






I just tried that. Something doesn't look
exactly right and the elevator is scraping the workbench now.  What am
I
doing wrong?

Ed

  ----- Original Message -----
  From:
  JShulman

  To: General pattern discussion

  Sent:
 Monday, September 22, 2008 11:30
  PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap
  rolls


  swap rudder
  with elevator

  Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com


    -----Original Message-----
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    [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bob
    Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:24 AM
To:
    General pattern discussion
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap
    rolls



     I'm probably opening this up for lots of discussion, but what is
the
    correct technique for a snap?

     For an inside snap, I apply rudder a fraction before (same
direction)
    aileron and up elevator.
     For an outside snap, I apply rudder a fraction before opposite
aileron
    and down elevator.

    Problem is, I watch the big boys do snaps on my TOC videos and
    mine look so raggedy-ass.





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