[NSRCA-discussion] CF gear needs and something to talk about

[Pete Cosky]

If the majority will not pay $100 then the simple economics dictate the price is too high to make it viable. If you made a set of gear markedly lighter than the Bolly or ES gear and could guarantee the gear would not break in normal usage you might get your $100 from the pattern community. the next question is given the market segment you are going after at what point will you have saturated the market and have excess stock sitting on the shelf?

If the weight savings were substantial for a set of gear for an electric 2 meter plane you might see a few guys buy your gear as replacements.

Just my thoughts on the subject.
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  From: Gray E Fowler 
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  Interesting about the need for landing gear. Lance and I from AeroSlave have conteplated making gear. Personnally I have an ES and we chose not design and fab CF gear because the ES was a good price, good weight.  I was unaware the ES has ceased making the gear. If I had to guess ES stopped due to not enough money to be made, probably due to the people wanting replacements due to breaking or just not enough profit margin at $75. 
  I have looked at many different types of CF gear and the one thing they all had in common was some type of design flaw. These various flaws were a result of composite design ignorance or, a tough choice that had to be made to keep fab costs low.  So the question is...how much would a pattern dude pay for a lightweight CF landing gear that would never break under normal use? It can be done, but is the market there? 

  $100 ? 
  $150 ? 
  $175 ? 

  I would guess that a majority will choke on a $100 cost, and obviously, a $75 price tag (ES) is not sustainable as a business. 




  Gray Fowler
  Senior Principal Chemical Engineer
  Radomes and Specialty Apertures
  Technical Staff Composites Engineering
  Raytheon 


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  Concur on the landing gear.  Big hole was left when ES stopped producing gears.

  Jon Lowe

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  Control Horns, Carbon landing gear, wing and stab adjusters (unless we're
  still going to be able to get the gator stuff).


  On 10/21/08 9:00 PM, "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com> wrote:

  > How about this for all you pilots sitting at home not knowing what to
  > practice.
  > 
  > Shulman Aviation is developing a pattern line of products. We will have an F3A
  > outrunner and controller in a few months, along with
  > some parts for planes. We will also have our 4 ARF designs.
  > 
  > My question is... what else do we need to make life easier, or at the least,
  > to keep flying our planes? Let me know and we'll see
  > what we can do.
  > 
  > Regards,
  > Jason
  > www.jasonshulman.com
  > www.shulmanaviation.com
  > www.composite-arf.com
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