[NSRCA-discussion] CF gear needs and something to talk about

[glmiller3 at suddenlink.net]

Gray,

I would be happy to pay 100 bucks for a durable, light weight gear set.  The beauty of the ES gear was their length to weight ratio.  I couldn't get any of the "long ES gear" so I had to run the standards on my BMV3's and the prop touches on anything but the smoooooothest of landings.  So I'm pretty much running a 191/2 X 15 rather than the nominal 20X15 <G>.  Bolly Gear is significantly heavier and though "thicker" doesn't seem to be any more durable than the ligher ES's.


---- Gray E Fowler <gfowler at raytheon.com> wrote: 

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Interesting about the need for landing gear. Lance and I from AeroSlave 
have conteplated making gear. Personnally I have an ES and we chose not 
design and fab CF gear because the ES was a good price, good weight.  I 
was unaware the ES has ceased making the gear. If I had to guess ES 
stopped due to not enough money to be made, probably due to the people 
wanting replacements due to breaking or just not enough profit margin at 
$75.
I have looked at many different types of CF gear and the one thing they 
all had in common was some type of design flaw. These various flaws were a 
result of composite design ignorance or, a tough choice that had to be 
made to keep fab costs low.  So the question is...how much would a pattern 
dude pay for a lightweight CF landing gear that would never break under 
normal use? It can be done, but is the market there?

$100 ?
$150 ?
$175 ?

I would guess that a majority will choke on a $100 cost, and obviously, a 
$75 price tag (ES) is not sustainable as a business. 




Gray Fowler
Senior Principal Chemical Engineer
Radomes and Specialty Apertures
Technical Staff Composites Engineering
Raytheon



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Concur on the landing gear.  Big hole was left when ES stopped producing 
gears.

Jon Lowe

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Control Horns, Carbon landing gear, wing and stab adjusters (unless we're
still going to be able to get the gator stuff).


On 10/21/08 9:00 PM, "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> How about this for all you pilots sitting at home not knowing what to
> practice.
> 
> Shulman Aviation is developing a pattern line of products. We will have 
an F3A
> outrunner and controller in a few months, along with
> some parts for planes. We will also have our 4 ARF designs.
> 
> My question is... what else do we need to make life easier, or at the 
least,
> to keep flying our planes? Let me know and we'll see
> what we can do.
> 
> Regards,
> Jason
> www.jasonshulman.com
> www.shulmanaviation.com
> www.composite-arf.com
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