[NSRCA-discussion] Flying in wind

[Ron Van Putte]

This is a very good point.  When you learn to use all the tools  
properly and develop discipline and skill by practice, you will be a  
better pilot.

BTW, I've had sport pilots say something to me like, "You Pattern  
pilots think you're better pilots than the rest of us."  I probably  
didn't make any friends for Pattern when I said, "Yes, we do, because  
we have the discipline and skill to do maneuvers we want to do where  
we want to do them."

Ron Van Putte

On Mar 15, 2007, at 2:57 PM, Mike Robinson wrote:

> Robert - I've had and have most of your flying habits. But, once I  
> committed to do maneuvers in a planned way instead of just doing  
> them I soon realized I needed to use every tool available to me  
> which included the rudder. I have found that with practice, and a  
> good coach if available, those habits tend to be replaced with  
> better ones. I guess I'm saying "Do your time" and it will work out.
> Lastly, those maneuvers are supposed to be daunting! If they were  
> easy, then every sport flyer would be a pattern flyer!
>
> On 3/15/07, Robert L. Beaubien <rbeaubien at koolsoft.com> wrote:
> As someone that is trying to unlearn the bad habits of my training,  
> I wonder if I am approaching this the wrong way.
>
>
> I was trained to fly without rudder (except for ground control) and  
> learned the reverse controls concept when flying toward me and I  
> pretty much think that way when flying.  I have learned to use a  
> little rudder to be able to land in crosswinds, but it just seems  
> to foreign to me.  As I start down the path of learning to fly  
> pattern, I find the concept of learning to fly a straight path in a  
> cross wind while performing maneuvers to be daunting.
>
>
> Troy has been helping me out a lot, but I was wondering if anyone  
> has suggestions for going through this relearning process.
>
>
> - Robert Beaubien
>
>
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- 
> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Archie Stafford
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:54 AM
> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Field lay out Advice
>
>
> I have to disagree on this one.  I now teach guys for a living how  
> to fly.  We end up teaching them UAV's, but they learn on .60 size  
> trainers.  These guys have no background in R/C and I think if you  
> don't let them be affected by the wind, then they wont be.  Our  
> normal flying days here in SW texas are 10-15mph, and these guys  
> are soloing in 5 days flying only in the afternoons. Usually  
> straight in our face, or straight from our backs.  I don't think  
> I've had a day yet that we didn't have a significant crosswind.  I  
> have found here, that if you don't let the guys become  
> psychologically affected by the wind and such, then it isn't near  
> as big a factor.  Another tip we have found and it is true, is that  
> we do not mention ANYTHING about the controls being different when  
> coming at them.  I've heard people say "the controls reverse when  
> coming at you", well, that's not actually true, it only appears  
> that way.  By not telling them that, it takes that thought process  
> out of their heads and they don't fight it.  Teach in the wind, and  
> they'll be able to fly in the wind.
>
>
> Arch Stafford
>
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