[NSRCA-discussion] Flying in wind

[Mike Robinson]

Well, I don't mean to downgrade (pun?) any sport pilot. Heck, I was and am
one now. But, to have the knowledge gained by practicing precision maneuvers
is invaluable to me on a personal level, and extra skill that I learn will
make my Kadet Senior even more graceful and beautiful on those still summer
evenings.

On 3/15/07, Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net> wrote:
>
> This is a very good point.  When you learn to use all the tools properly
> and develop discipline and skill by practice, you will be a better pilot.
> BTW, I've had sport pilots say something to me like, "You Pattern pilots
> think you're better pilots than the rest of us."  I probably didn't make any
> friends for Pattern when I said, "Yes, we do, because we have the discipline
> and skill to do maneuvers we want to do where we want to do them."
> Ron Van Putte
>
> On Mar 15, 2007, at 2:57 PM, Mike Robinson wrote:
>
> Robert - I've had and have most of your flying habits. But, once I
> committed to do maneuvers in a planned way instead of just doing them I soon
> realized I needed to use every tool available to me which included the
> rudder. I have found that with practice, and a good coach if available,
> those habits tend to be replaced with better ones. I guess I'm saying "Do
> your time" and it will work out.
> Lastly, those maneuvers are supposed to be daunting! If they were easy,
> then every sport flyer would be a pattern flyer!
>
> On 3/15/07, Robert L. Beaubien <rbeaubien at koolsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> >  As someone that is trying to unlearn the bad habits of my training, I
> > wonder if I am approaching this the wrong way.
> >
> >
> > I was trained to fly without rudder (except for ground control) and
> > learned the reverse controls concept when flying toward me and I pretty much
> > think that way when flying.  I have learned to use a little rudder to be
> > able to land in crosswinds, but it just seems to foreign to me.  As I start
> > down the path of learning to fly pattern, I find the concept of learning to
> > fly a straight path in a cross wind while performing maneuvers to be
> > daunting.
> >
> >
> > Troy has been helping me out a lot, but I was wondering if anyone has
> > suggestions for going through this relearning process.
> >
> >
> > - Robert Beaubien
> >
> >
> > *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:
> > nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *Archie Stafford
> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:54 AM
> > *To:* 'NSRCA Mailing List'
> > *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Field lay out Advice
> >
> >
> > I have to disagree on this one.  I now teach guys for a living how to
> > fly.  We end up teaching them UAV's, but they learn on .60 size trainers.
> > These guys have no background in R/C and I think if you don't let them be
> > affected by the wind, then they wont be.  Our normal flying days here in SW
> > texas are 10-15mph, and these guys are soloing in 5 days flying only in the
> > afternoons. Usually straight in our face, or straight from our backs.  I
> > don't think I've had a day yet that we didn't have a significant crosswind.
> >  I have found here, that if you don't let the guys become psychologically
> > affected by the wind and such, then it isn't near as big a factor.  Another
> > tip we have found and it is true, is that we do not mention ANYTHING about
> > the controls being different when coming at them.  I've heard people say
> > "the controls reverse when coming at you", well, that's not actually true,
> > it only appears that way.  By not telling them that, it takes that thought
> > process out of their heads and they don't fight it.  Teach in the wind, and
> > they'll be able to fly in the wind.
> >
> >
> > Arch Stafford
> >
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