[NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far now "missed point".

[Dave Reaville]

Hi Doug

I see your point and the downgrade criteria could certainly be more clearer in this exmple you used. Why a 6 instead of a 5? Not sure so I guess this is the judgment call the judge has to make.
All I am saying is that it does not say it's a zero score for a missed point.

Hopefully I will never see you present a missed point if I am judging you.... but is I did do you want a 5 or a zero? :-)

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Cronkhite <seefo at san.rr.com>
Date: Sunday, July 1, 2007 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far now "missed point".
To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>

> 
> One other thing..
> 
> If you use the FAI rule book as an example, on page 34 under 
> section 
> 5B.4.6, they give as an example the following:
> 
> "A 4-point roll is started late and ends up slightly off-centre, 
> and the 
> third point is not visible. 10 - 1 - 6 = 3."
> 
> So they deducted 6 points for the missed point. Why not 5? What 
> made 
> this missed point worse than any other missed point?
> 
> Deduction criteria for geometry and such (which this falls into) 
> needs 
> to be absolute, and without wiggle room such as the well known 1 
> point 
> per 15 degrees of deviation.
> 
> -Doug
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dave Reaville wrote:
> > Interesting... I just happen to be doing the judging exam and 
> this is 
> > one of the questions they ask to see if you know how to apply 
> the 
> > downgrades correctly :-)
> >  
> > In the example given, the pilot missed a point so it's a 5 (or 
> more) 
> > point downgrade as per the AMA rule book (RCA-20)  and 
> also the FAI 
> > rule book (pg 28 5B.4.3.3).
> >  
> > If your suggesting it's a zero because the manouver is flown 
> > "incorrectly" then why do they have this 5 point downgrade at all?
> >  
> > Let's go a little further... If I was judging you at the Nats 
> (I just 
> > might be BTW) and gave you a zero for a missed point would you 
> > actually accept that as being a correct score?  I 
> wouldn't... so you 
> > guys are going to just have to get used to the 5 (or 
> > more) downgrade from me..... unless of course you don't miss 
> the 
> > "point" to begin with.
> >  
> > Dave 
> >  
> >  
> 
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