<DIV>Hi Doug</DIV>
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<DIV>I see your point and the downgrade criteria could certainly be more clearer in this exmple you used. Why a 6 instead of a 5? Not sure so I guess this is the judgment call the judge has to make.</DIV>
<DIV>All I am saying is that it does not say it's a zero score for a missed point.</DIV>
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<DIV>Hopefully I will never see you present a missed point if I am judging you.... but is I did do you want a 5 or a zero? :-)</DIV>
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<DIV>Dave</DIV>
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<DIV>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: Doug Cronkhite <seefo@san.rr.com><BR>Date: Sunday, July 1, 2007 7:28 pm<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far now "missed point".<BR>To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><BR>> <BR>> One other thing..<BR>> <BR>> If you use the FAI rule book as an example, on page 34 under <BR>> section <BR>> 5B.4.6, they give as an example the following:<BR>> <BR>> "A 4-point roll is started late and ends up slightly off-centre, <BR>> and the <BR>> third point is not visible. 10 - 1 - 6 = 3."<BR>> <BR>> So they deducted 6 points for the missed point. Why not 5? What <BR>> made <BR>> this missed point worse than any other missed point?<BR>> <BR>> Deduction criteria for geometry and such (which this falls into) <BR>> needs <BR>> to be absolute, and without wiggle room such as the well known 1 <BR>> point <BR>> per 15 degrees of deviation.<BR>> <BR>> -Doug<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Dave Reaville wrote:<BR>> > Interesting... I just happen to be doing the judging exam and <BR>> this is <BR>> > one of the questions they ask to see if you know how to apply <BR>> the <BR>> > downgrades correctly :-)<BR>> > <BR>> > In the example given, the pilot missed a point so it's a 5 (or <BR>> more) <BR>> > point downgrade as per the AMA rule book (RCA-20) and <BR>> also the FAI <BR>> > rule book (pg 28 5B.4.3.3).<BR>> > <BR>> > If your suggesting it's a zero because the manouver is flown <BR>> > "incorrectly" then why do they have this 5 point downgrade at all?<BR>> > <BR>> > Let's go a little further... If I was judging you at the Nats <BR>> (I just <BR>> > might be BTW) and gave you a zero for a missed point would you <BR>> > actually accept that as being a correct score? I <BR>> wouldn't... so you <BR>> > guys are going to just have to get used to the 5 (or <BR>> > more) downgrade from me..... unless of course you don't miss <BR>> the <BR>> > "point" to begin with.<BR>> > <BR>> > Dave <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> </DIV>