[NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought
John Gayer
jgghome at comcast.net
Fri Aug 31 18:33:34 AKDT 2007
Richard Lindberg has been the spark in this area for years. There are 5
pattern flyers in the club he helped found here in Albuquerque out of
about 10-15 active flyers. What we need now is a better surface for our
field so we can attract new members and then convert them to pattern.
John
Lance Van Nostrand wrote:
> Yes, I'm sorry I missed it too. What a disaster it was around here.
> In addition to the car and carpet install, our new dishwasher was just
> installed....
>
> Yes, those days are gone for now in your area, but if you look at the
> whole country you will see other areas that used to be sparse have
> become dense. Pattern centers come and go. Often this can be traced
> to some extraordinary individuals other times its a group of 4 or 5
> guys that get into it together. There is a critical mass of interest
> in an area that seems to feed on itself. Jeff Carrish really tried
> hard in CO but just couldn't get the ball rolling whereas the Houston,
> S. Louisiana and Tulsa areas sprung up from nothing to 6-9 guys in
> only a few seasons. I hear the same from our peers in other areas.
> Overall participation is growing in the country faster than NSRCA
> membership. We need to support you in any way possible so you can be
> the spark to gather interest in your area.
>
> --Lance
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* John Gayer <mailto:jgghome at comcast.net>
> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:43 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought
>
> Lance,
>
> I certainly appreciate the recent growth in the SW with the
> addition of the El Paso contest. However, I still remeber when
> there were at least 5 contests in Colorado, two or three in Kansas
> and two in New Mexico. There was also a contest in
> Montana(Billings) and Casper in Wyoming.
> Those days appear to be long gone and the few remaining contests
> struggle to come up with 17 contestants. I believe the sole
> remaining contest in Colorado had 11 contestants.
> BTW, the Roadrunner contest in Albuquerque will be putting on its
> 24th edition next summer.
>
> Sorry you couldn't make it to Lubbock. Ed put on a great contest.
> John
>
> Lance Van Nostrand wrote:
>
>> John,
>> Even though your contests are small, they are extraordinary
>> feats. El Paso is new, Alb is new within the last few years.
>> Growth in the SW is apparent and excellent for the population
>> density. Keep going!!
>>
>> --Lance
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* John Gayer <mailto:jgghome at comcast.net>
>> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List
>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:06 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought
>>
>> At Lubbock last weekend there were 2 Sportsman, 3
>> Intermediate, 2 advanced, 5 Masters and 4 FAI as i recall..
>> All threeof the contests in this area that I have attended
>> have had about 17 contestants. El Paso had a total of 13 in
>> Spotsman and Intermediate.which is a good sign for the future.
>> John
>>
>> Claude Weimer wrote:
>>
>>> How many Masters Flyers are generally in the contests you
>>> fly in? We may have 4 or 5 Advanced and 10 to 15 Masters.
>>>
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>>> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf
>>> Of *John Gayer
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 27, 2007 10:53 PM
>>> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List
>>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought
>>>
>>> Western district 6. I live in Albuquerque and fly Advanced.
>>> Jeff Hill and I have competed against a total of one other
>>> contestant in three contests(Albuquerque, El Paso and Lubbock).
>>> John Gayer
>>> NSRCA 632
>>>
>>> Claude Weimer wrote:
>>>
>>> What part of the country are you in?
>>>
>>> Claude
>>>
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>>> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf
>>> Of *John Gayer
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 27, 2007 10:17 PM
>>> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List
>>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought
>>>
>>> This sounds good to me as a compromise. >From what I've
>>> seen, we are currently having difficulty getting enough
>>> competitiors for the classes we have now without adding
>>> another class.
>>> John
>>>
>>> vicenterc at comcast.net <mailto:vicenterc at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Claude,
>>>
>>> Suggestion: Why we don't call Expert = F3A and fly the P
>>> schedule only in local contests? The only change we will
>>> need to make is that Expert = F3A becomes the last AMA
>>> class. In other worlds, Master should not be
>>> the terminal AMA class. Adding another class will add cost
>>> to the contest and probably will be longer to run.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message --------------
>>> From: "Claude Weimer" <cweimer at tconl.com>
>>> <mailto:cweimer at tconl.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been thinking, it might be time to bring back the
>>> Expert class. The reason I say this is because the
>>> Masters class is becoming rather large and is going to
>>> grow in the coming years. The problems I see are the
>>> difficulty judging at local contests. At the St Louis
>>> contest it took an hour and a half to judge Masters.
>>> Because Masters is the largest class compared the
>>> Advanced and Intermediate and only three FAI, it can be
>>> difficult to organize Judges for Masters. I'm not
>>> singling out the St Louis contest, the Omaha contest was
>>> the same as most contests I have been to. If Masters
>>> was split in two classes it would inc! rease t he
>>> available people to judge.
>>>
>>> Masters could be a little easier and Expert could be
>>> harder. Expert could even be the last FAI P schedule.
>>> The reason some don't wish to move to FAI is the time
>>> to learn two schedules. It looks like the Masters class
>>> is going to get larger and I think it would be good to
>>> break it split it up.
>>>
>>> Claude Weimer
>>>
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>>> Subject:
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>>> [NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought
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>>> From:
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>>> "Claude Weimer" <cweimer at tconl.com> <mailto:cweimer at tconl.com>
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>>> Date:
>>>
>>> Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:33:59 +0000
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