[NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought

Lance Van Nostrand patterndude at tx.rr.com
Thu Aug 30 17:19:22 AKDT 2007


Yes, I'm sorry I missed it too.  What a disaster it was around here.  In addition to the car and carpet install, our new dishwasher was just installed....

Yes, those days are gone for now in your area, but if you look at the whole country you will see other areas that used to be sparse have become dense.  Pattern centers come and go.  Often this can be traced to some extraordinary individuals other times its a group of 4 or 5 guys that get into it together.  There is a critical mass of interest in an area that seems to feed on itself.  Jeff Carrish really tried hard in CO but just couldn't get the ball rolling whereas the Houston, S. Louisiana and Tulsa areas sprung up from nothing to 6-9 guys in only a few seasons.  I hear the same from our peers in other areas.  Overall participation is growing in the country faster than NSRCA membership.  We need to support you in any way possible so you can be the spark to gather interest in your area.

--Lance

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Gayer 
  To: NSRCA Mailing List 
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought


  Lance,

  I certainly appreciate the recent growth in the SW with the addition of the El Paso contest. However, I still remeber when there were at least 5 contests in Colorado, two or three in Kansas and two in New Mexico. There was also a contest in Montana(Billings) and Casper in Wyoming. 
  Those days appear to be long gone and the few remaining contests struggle to come up with 17 contestants. I believe the sole remaining contest in Colorado had 11 contestants.
  BTW, the Roadrunner contest in Albuquerque will be putting on its 24th edition next summer. 

  Sorry you couldn't make it to Lubbock. Ed put on a great contest.
  John

  Lance Van Nostrand wrote: 
    John,
    Even though your contests are small, they are extraordinary feats.  El Paso is new, Alb is new within the last few years.  Growth in the SW is apparent and excellent for the population density.  Keep going!!

    --Lance

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: John Gayer 
      To: NSRCA Mailing List 
      Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:06 AM
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought


      At Lubbock last weekend there were 2 Sportsman, 3 Intermediate, 2 advanced, 5 Masters and 4 FAI as i recall.. All threeof the contests in this area that I have attended have had about 17 contestants. El Paso had a total of 13 in Spotsman and Intermediate.which is a good sign for the future.
      John

      Claude Weimer wrote: 
        How many Masters Flyers are generally in the contests you fly in? We may have 4 or 5 Advanced and 10 to 15 Masters.



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        From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John Gayer
        Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:53 PM
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        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought


        Western district 6. I live in Albuquerque and fly Advanced. Jeff Hill and I have competed against a total of one other contestant in three contests(Albuquerque, El Paso and Lubbock).
        John Gayer
        NSRCA 632

        Claude Weimer wrote: 

        What part of the country are you in?


        Claude



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        From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John Gayer
        Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:17 PM
        To: NSRCA Mailing List
        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought


        This sounds good to me as a compromise. >From what I've seen, we are currently having difficulty getting enough competitiors for the classes we have now without adding another class.
        John

        vicenterc at comcast.net wrote: 

        Claude,


        Suggestion:  Why we don't call Expert = F3A and fly the P schedule only in local contests?  The only change we will need to make is that  Expert = F3A becomes the last AMA class.  In other worlds, Master should not be the terminal AMA class.  Adding another class will add cost to the contest and probably will be longer to run. 


        Regards,


        --
        Vicente "Vince" Bortone


          -------------- Original message -------------- 
          From: "Claude Weimer" <cweimer at tconl.com> 




          I have been thinking, it might be time to bring back the Expert class.  The reason I say this is because the Masters class is becoming rather large and is going to grow in the coming years. The problems I see are the difficulty judging at local contests.  At the St Louis contest it took an hour and a half to judge Masters.  Because Masters is the largest class compared the Advanced and Intermediate and only three FAI, it can be difficult to organize Judges for Masters.  I'm not singling out the St Louis contest, the Omaha contest was the same as most contests I have been to.  If Masters was split in two classes it would inc! rease t he available people to judge.


          Masters could be a little easier and Expert could be harder.  Expert could even be the last FAI P schedule.  The reason some don't wish to move to FAI is the time to learn two schedules.  It looks like the Masters class is going to get larger and I think it would be good to break it split it up.


          Claude Weimer



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