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Richard Lindberg has been the spark in this area for years. There are 5
pattern flyers in the club he helped found here in Albuquerque out of
about 10-15 active flyers. What we need now is a better surface for our
field so we can attract new members and then convert them to pattern.<br>
<br>
John<br>
<br>
Lance Van Nostrand wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Yes, I'm sorry I missed it too.
What a disaster it was around here. In addition to the car and carpet
install, our new dishwasher was just installed....</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Yes, those days are gone for now in
your area, but if you look at the whole country you will see other
areas that used to be sparse have become dense. Pattern centers come
and go. Often this can be traced to some extraordinary individuals
other times its a group of 4 or 5 guys that get into it together.
There is a critical mass of interest in an area that seems to feed on
itself. Jeff Carrish really tried hard in CO but just couldn't get the
ball rolling whereas the Houston, S. Louisiana and Tulsa areas sprung
up from nothing to 6-9 guys in only a few seasons. I hear the same
from our peers in other areas. Overall participation is growing in the
country faster than NSRCA membership. We need to support you in any
way possible so you can be the spark to gather interest in your area.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">--Lance</font></div>
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Lance,<br>
<br>
I certainly appreciate the recent growth in the SW with the addition of
the El Paso contest. However, I still remeber when there were at least
5 contests in Colorado, two or three in Kansas and two in New Mexico.
There was also a contest in Montana(Billings) and Casper in Wyoming. <br>
Those days appear to be long gone and the few remaining contests
struggle to come up with 17 contestants. I believe the sole remaining
contest in Colorado had 11 contestants.<br>
BTW, the Roadrunner contest in Albuquerque will be putting on its 24th
edition next summer. <br>
<br>
Sorry you couldn't make it to Lubbock. Ed put on a great contest.<br>
John<br>
<br>
Lance Van Nostrand wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Even though your contests are
small, they are extraordinary feats. El Paso is new, Alb is new within
the last few years. Growth in the SW is apparent and excellent for the
population density. Keep going!!</font></div>
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<a title="jgghome@comcast.net" href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">John
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought</div>
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At Lubbock last weekend there were 2 Sportsman, 3 Intermediate, 2
advanced, 5 Masters and 4 FAI as i recall.. All threeof the contests in
this area that I have attended have had about 17 contestants. El Paso
had a total of 13 in Spotsman and Intermediate.which is a good sign for
the future.<br>
John<br>
<br>
Claude Weimer wrote:
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">How many
Masters Flyers are generally in the contests you fly in? We may have 4
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>John
Gayer<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday,
August 27, 2007 10:53 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <ST1:PERSONNAME
w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</ST1:PERSONNAME><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought</span></font><font color="black"><span
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Western
district 6. I live in <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Albuquerque</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>
and fly Advanced. Jeff Hill and I have competed against a total of one
other contestant in three contests(<ST1:CITY w:st="on">Albuquerque</ST1:CITY>,
<ST1:CITY w:st="on">El Paso</ST1:CITY> and <ST1:CITY
w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Lubbock</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>).<br>
John Gayer<br>
NSRCA 632<br>
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Claude Weimer wrote: <O:P></O:P></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>John
Gayer<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday,
August 27, 2007 10:17 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <ST1:PERSONNAME
w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</ST1:PERSONNAME><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought</span></font><O:P></O:P></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">This
sounds good to me as a compromise. >From what I've seen, we are
currently having difficulty getting enough competitiors for the classes
we have now without adding another class.<br>
John<br>
<br>
<a href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</a>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Suggestion:
Why we don't call Expert = F3A and fly the P schedule only in local
contests? The only change we will need to make is that Expert = F3A
becomes the last AMA class. In other worlds, Master should not be
the terminal AMA class. Adding another class will add cost to the
contest and probably will be longer to run. <U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></span></font></p>
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have been thinking, it might be time to bring back the Expert class.
The reason I say this is because the Masters class is becoming rather
large and is going to grow in the coming years. The problems I see are
the difficulty judging at local contests. At the <ST1:CITY u2:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
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contest it took an hour and a half to judge Masters. Because Masters
is the largest class compared the Advanced and Intermediate and only
three FAI, it can be difficult to organize Judges for Masters. I’m not
singling out the <ST1:CITY u2:st="on"><ST1:CITY u6:st="on"><ST1:CITY
w:st="on">St Louis</ST1:CITY></ST1:CITY></ST1:CITY> contest, the <ST1:CITY
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contest was the same as most contests I have been to. If Masters was
split in two classes it would inc! rease t he available people to judge.<U4:P></U4:P></span></font><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></p>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Masters
could be a little easier and Expert could be harder. Expert could even
be the last FAI P schedule. The reason some don’t wish to move to FAI
is the time to learn two schedules. It looks like the Masters class is
going to get larger and I think it would be good to break it split it
up.<U4:P></U4:P></span></font><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">"Claude
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