[NSRCA-discussion] mode 1 and 2 together?

[Derek Koopowitz]

I was originally a mode 1 guy... stopped flying for about 7 years and then
when I went back there weren't any mode 1 pilots to sign me off so I had to
learn again on mode 2 - soloed the 2nd flight.  Been flying mode 2 now for
the past 15 years or so.

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of JShulman
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] mode 1 and 2 together?


I can't really fly Mode 1 fully. I haven't taken off and landed yet, but I
can do some aerobatics, up high. I did it as a joke a couple years back at
the Joe-Nall with a friends 3.3M Yak and was doing some "Advanced"
maneuvers, but have only flown Mode 1 a few times ever. It was fun, and
everyone seemed to get a huge chuckle when I reverted back to Mode 2.
 
As for trimming with a different mode, that's certainly a challenge.
Basically you just have to walk the person through what you would do.
Uplines, downlines, KE, loops... everything until they are happy with the
way the plane flies. If they are over-rolling or pulling, time for a little
less throw or more expo. it's certainly a challenge, but that's what makes
it so much fun. And if you have the same brand radio, you could always copy
the model and trim it, or buddy-box and show him things to do.
 
Gary, was getting ready for bed...
 

Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Lance Van
Nostrand
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 11:24 AM
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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] mode 1 and 2 together?


Jason,
Can you fly either way?  I have wished I could do that but never thought it
possible.  There are 2 pilots in my area that fly mode 1 and have Symphony's
and I would love to help them trim them but I figured it was not possible.
I was bringing a Sportsman/Intermediate along for a few years who had moved
here from Europe (mode 1) and he decided to switch to mode 2 so he could get
more help locally.  He struggled for about 6 months but eventually got it,
but I figured I'm too far down the path to change.  Anyway, just curious as
to your story and recommendations.
 
--Lance
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: JShulman <mailto:jshulman at cfl.rr.com>  
To: NSRCA Mailing List <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pattern is for elitist snobs?

Sometimes I fly good and sometimes I fly bad (especially Mode 1, being a
Mode 2 pilot), but I always fly with my thumbs, like my brother. But both my
Dad and Grandfather fly-by-pinch. It's what is most comfortable to you as
the pilot.
 

Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of John Pavlick
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 1:25 AM
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Uh, ask Jason how he flies. There is no "right" or "wrong" way. Whatever
works for you is the best. Really.
 
John Pavlick
http://www.idseng.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bob  <mailto:bob at toprudder.com> Richards 
To: NSRCA Mailing List <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pattern is for elitist snobs?

Jim,
 
Regarding using thumbs and neckstraps/trays, I tried to get my son to use
the pinch method (thumb/forefinger) but he said he felt more comfortable
with just thumbs. He does use a neckstrap, though.
 
I do know someone that won Masters class at the Nats a few years back that
flew with just thumbs and no strap/tray. WHAT A HEATHEN!!!  :-)
 
Bob R.


J N Hiller <jnhiller at earthlink.net> wrote:

<snip>I started as a 'Thumb Flier' and never changed. I think most would
agree that we have better control using the 'Thumb and Forefinger' method
with a neck strap or a transmitter tray. The problem most of us thumb flyers
have is leaning on the aileron a little when pulling or pushing elevator.
Even with extra stiff springs from Radio South I still experience some
mixing of control functions. I should probably change but it is hard for old
dogs to learn new tricks. As John recommended wings level is of primary
importance and we don't want to disturb that inadvertently with unwanted
aileron input when applying elevator. 
</snip>



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