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color=#0000ff size=2>I was originally a mode 1 guy... stopped flying for about 7
years and then when I went back there weren't any mode 1 pilots to sign me off
so I had to learn again on mode 2 - soloed the 2nd flight. Been flying
mode 2 now for the past 15 years or so.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>JShulman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:07 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] mode 1 and 2
together?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=820125816-26082007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I can't
really fly Mode 1 fully. I haven't taken off and landed yet, but I can do some
aerobatics, up high. I did it as a joke a couple years back at the Joe-Nall with
a friends 3.3M Yak and was doing some "Advanced" maneuvers, but have only
flown Mode 1 a few times ever. It was fun, and everyone seemed to get a huge
chuckle when I reverted back to Mode 2.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=820125816-26082007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=820125816-26082007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>As for
trimming with a different mode, that's certainly a challenge. Basically you just
have to walk the person through what you would do. Uplines, downlines, KE,
loops... everything until they are happy with the way the plane flies. If they
are over-rolling or pulling, time for a little less throw or more expo. it's
certainly a challenge, but that's what makes it so much fun. And if you have the
same brand radio, you could always copy the model and trim it, or buddy-box and
show him things to do.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=820125816-26082007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=820125816-26082007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Gary, was
getting ready for bed...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT
size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com</FONT>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Lance Van
Nostrand<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 26, 2007 11:24 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] mode 1 and 2
together?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jason,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can you fly either way? I have wished I
could do that but never thought it possible. There are 2 pilots in my
area that fly mode 1 and have Symphony's and I would love to help them trim
them but I figured it was not possible. I was bringing a
Sportsman/Intermediate along for a few years who had moved here from Europe
(mode 1) and he decided to switch to mode 2 so he could get more help
locally. He struggled for about 6 months but eventually got it, but I
figured I'm too far down the path to change. Anyway, just curious as to
your story and recommendations.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jshulman@cfl.rr.com href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com">JShulman</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:30
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pattern
is for elitist snobs?</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=150532709-26082007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Sometimes
I fly good and sometimes I fly bad (especially Mode 1, being a Mode 2
pilot), but I always fly with my thumbs, like my brother. But both my Dad
and Grandfather fly-by-pinch. It's what is most comfortable to you as the
pilot.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A
href="http://www.jasonshulman.com">www.jasonshulman.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</A></FONT> </P>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>John
Pavlick<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 26, 2007 1:25 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pattern is
for elitist snobs?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Uh, ask Jason how he flies. There is no
"right" or "wrong" way. Whatever works for you is the best.
Really.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A
href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Bob
Richards</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 25, 2007
9:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Pattern is for elitist snobs?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Jim,</DIV>
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<DIV>Regarding using thumbs and neckstraps/trays, I tried to get my son
to use the pinch method (thumb/forefinger) but he said he felt more
comfortable with just thumbs. He does use a neckstrap, though.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I do know someone that won Masters class at the Nats a few
years back that flew with just thumbs and no strap/tray. WHAT A
HEATHEN!!! :-)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>J N Hiller <jnhiller@earthlink.net></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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started as a ‘Thumb Flier’ and never changed. I think most would agree
that we have better control using the ‘Thumb and Forefinger’ method
with a neck strap or a transmitter tray. The problem most of us thumb
flyers have is leaning on the aileron a little when pulling or pushing
elevator. Even with extra stiff springs from Radio South I still
experience some mixing of control functions. I should probably change
but it is hard for old dogs to learn new tricks. As John recommended
wings level is of primary importance and we don’t want to disturb that
inadvertently with unwanted aileron input when applying elevator.
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