[NSRCA-dist8] Masters

Sun Nov 4 19:50:58 AKST 2012

I just go "Mechanical" on the rudder. If I finished the first roll with
"left" rudder, the opposite roll starts with "left" rudder.
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 8:30 PM, alan wellentin <a_wellentin at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Yep, forgot about the slow rolls reversed.  Very  reminiscent of the 4 of
> 8 slow roll reversed.  Gordon is right, getting a slow roll to hit three
> seconds or more isn't difficult until you need to do it twice and remain in
> the box.  Up until the other day, I had never done a slow roll to the left,
> scary stuff, I gave the wrong flippin rudder near every time.  Like Jim
> said, slow down and move out.  Also, don't come in on the  stall turn, if
> you have an incoming line, your a dead duck or at least a really rushed
> duck for the next few maneuvers.
>
> Alan
>
>    *From:* J N Hiller <jnhiller at earthlink.net>
> *To:* "AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY" <nsrca-dist8 at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 4, 2012 6:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Masters
>
>   Yah this one sucks. Probably need about 9 sec between the turnaround
> radiuses. Need to fly slow or far out.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* nsrca-dist8-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:
> nsrca-dist8-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]*On Behalf Of *Gordon Anderson
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 04, 2012 6:28 PM
> *To:* AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Masters
>
> regarding slow rolls; I gave a lot of down grades last season because the
> slow rolls were too fast. The rule books say 3 secs minimum. So make sure
> your slow rolls are in fact slow!
>
> --Gordon
>
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Patrick Harris <harris7148 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  Alan,
> I was having the same problem with the 1 1/2 snap. I talked to Arch
> Stafford a week or so ago and he said to try holding about 1/4 power on the
> 45 downline and go to low just before the snap. He also said to come out of
> the elevator early. The up elevator on the last 1/2 snap pitches the plane
> down. Sounds easy enough until you try it. So far, holding power seems to
> help some, but I havn't been able to time the elevator.
> I have flown the new Masters about fifteen to twenty times and have most
> of the little stuff figured out. Here is my assessment.
> 2. Clover. I am doing a three count on the up line before the 2 of 4 and
> after. Nice big outside loop and you need to draw a good long line before
> and after the full roll (I am doing a 2 to 3 count before and after the
> roll). een able to time the elevator.
> 3. Stall turn, full roll up, 2 of 4 down. Use all the box as you will need
> it for the next maneuver. Other than that, no big deal.
> 4. Two slow rolls reversed. Not all that hard, but it needs to be started
> really early just after the stall turn. Stall turn, short line, roll. So
> far tough for me to center.
> 5. Half loop 2 of 4 up exit inverted. OK, here’s the trick to the next
> maneuver, the figure Z. This one needs to be really, really high. Use every
> bit of the box. I am doing a slow 3 count before and after the 2 of 4.
> 6. Figure Z. If you set it up high, it’s not all that hard to get it
> centered. If it’s not set up high, you will have a short leg after the 2 of
> 4 and it will look ugly. I am using a 2 or 3 count past center on the first
> inverted leg before the first inside loop.
> 7. Humpty. No issues.
> 8. Triangle loop, ½ rolls each leg. I am doing a 3 count after center
> before the first pull, followed by a 3 count between each ½ roll. The 3
> count is keeping it nice and big.
> 9. Stall turn, 2 of 4 up, 4 of 4 down. Needs to be set up at the edge of
> the box for the next maneuver. Draw a good long line before the 2 of 4. I
> am doing a 3 count before and after the 2 of 4. After the stall turn, draw
> a short line and come into the 4 of 4 quick.
> 10. Top hat. Short line after the stall turn and come into it early. 2 of
> 4 on up line….first quarter turn towards pilot (canopy)…it looks better.
> Snap out…it looks better. 2 of 4 down…first quarter turn toward pilot
> (canopy)…it looks better.
> 11. Humpty, ¾ turn up. Not hard, just have to remember which way to roll.
> 12. Eight sided loop. No big deal, but can get real ugly, real fast.
> 13. Full roll, half outside loop. Keep the loop nice and big for the Cuban
> and the next two turn around’s.
> 14. Reverse Cuban eight 1 ½ snap, 4 of 8. Carry power on the 45 before the
> snap and get out of the elevator fast. Easier said than done. This will
> help to hold the 45. Snap out…it looks better.
> 15. Figure six. No big deal unless you don’t set the Cuban up high.
> 16. Reverse knife edge, inverted exit. No big deal, just remember which
> way to roll for the inverted.
> 17. ¾ Figure 8. Needs to be set up high (maneuver 13). Needs to end high
> for the spin.
> 18 2 ½ spin, 2 of 4 out. All about timing.
> Pat
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 2:15 PM, alan wellentin <a_wellentin at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>  Well, I got a chance to fly through the new sequence on Friday.  I
> didn't have a chance to fly through it from start to finish, I didn't have
> a caller and I couldn't remember the whole sequnce.  I think it's going to
> be a fun one.  A couple of observations that I had;
>                    The cuban 8 with a snap and a half isn't as bad as I
> had imagined it to be, I only flew it twice but I think it will be a doable
> maneuver.  I found the biggest obstacle is going to be the exit heading
> after the snap, I ended up going from a 45 down to about a 65 down.
>                     I really wasn't thrilled with the notion of the stall
> turn 2 of 4 up, 4 point down.  In reallity, it isn't bad as long as the up
> line roll portions are started well into the up line to allow centering and
> altitude for the 4 point down.
>                     The figure Z is a bit tougher to center than I thought
> it would be.  I judged about 500 of the things in contests and could figure
> out why the roll segments weren't centered and why the bottom line was
> always pulled early, now I know.  It's just not as easy a maneuver as I
> originaly thought it was.
>                      It will be strange doing the reverse knife edge
> through the middle of the box instead of on the floor, also rolling out
> inverted will take some brainwashing, old habit of rolling back to upright
> will have to corrected.
>
>
> I'm figuring on selling the Miss wind, it just flies too different
> compared to the Scandalous.  It took a couple of gallons of fuel just to
> shake the old habitual corrections/inputs that the Wind needed but the
> Scandalous doesn't.  I thinking around the 525-550 range for the plane
> minus receiver but including 4, 6S packs.  I don't want to ship but I have
> no issues meeting someplace for delivery.
>
> Later,
> Alan
>
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