[NSRCA-dist7] Contest conflicts

krishlan fitzsimmons homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 24 23:59:06 AKST 2010


Tony,

Wow.. I feel somewhat attacked.. 

Constructive? lol.. Too funny.. Not sure why you are taking this out on me..I love Arvin.. Never said a negative word about it. I love the field.. Not sure why you are trying to put that on me Tony.. But here's my response cuz apparently you want one.... 
I live in the valley Tony, do you think I don't fly in the heat? Or do you think the heat only happens down there? I live in the same valley as Arvin (3 hours north) .. Heck, if you remember, I used to live down there also. So do you quit flying during those months? lol.. I doubt it.  I used to fly in it.. Heck, I don't don't care what the temp, I'm flying, and attending contests..  Hell, I'm holding Oakdale just before July.. I'm guessing 100 degrees.. But people will show.. I have no doubt.. They love the field and the contest. Plus I'll buy shades if I have to.. And I am planning on buying the soda's and waters.. Contests can happen in the heat.. The CD just has to make them happen.. 

Hope I'm taking this wrong and that you aren't attacking me.. Just feels that way.. 

Hope the weather down there is better than here! 

Best regards!



 
Chris 
 
 
 




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From: Anthony Frackowiak <frackowiak at sbcglobal.net>
To: "CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT" <nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 12:03:19 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist7] Contest conflicts

Kris,

Very constructive reply. It's good to see that the club that has hosted the District Championships for the last several years is so worthy of your support.

Do you have any idea why there are no contests in July, August and September in SoCal? Do you want to go to a contest with 95 to 100 degree days? That's why. 

I have asked for input on when to hold the Arvin contest and I have received no responses. You asked for an explanation on why we picked the date and I gave you one. In my opinion, my case has been made with Derek's "I'll take my ball home" response. Who really has been the inflexible one here?

Have a good day.

Tony



On Feb 24, 2010, at 11:37 PM, krishlan fitzsimmons wrote:

I hope you don't Derek.
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>I really enjoy your contest (as do many others) and after reading what was posted I wouldn't want to go to Arvin now anyway.. I'll help you cd if needed! I'm actually a little suprised by the response I got. There are no so cal contests in most of June, all of July, August and September.. IMO something in that time frame is a little better for a new southern contest.. But then again, who am I? lol...
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From: Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at comcast.net>
>To: "CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT" <nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>
>Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 9:38:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist7] Contest conflicts
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>The “lecture” I gave Tony was to be more flexible with his date as it is a new contest and shouldn’t conflict with traditional dates.   The BARCS contest has always been held the last week of April  but for the past several years we’ve had weather issues on that weekend and for the 1st time last year we moved the date to the 1st weekend in May.  Guess what?  We got rained out again – so we decided to keep it at the 1st weekend in May going forward since we felt our odds would be better.  Since it didn’t interfere or conflict with any traditional contests in previous years we thought we’d be ok.  Our board is limited to the dates we can use and moving it to the following weekend won’t work (Mother’s Day).  I’m not going back either since that conflicts with other activities.
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>The only other option I have is to cancel the contest – which I what I’m leaning toward anyway.  I’m tired of this bickering back and forth about who said what, etc.
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>From: nsrca-dist7-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-dist7-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Anthony Frackowiak
>Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:06 AM
>To: CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist7] Contest conflicts
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>When Leon and I set the date for the Arvin contest we looked at the last several years of the contest schedule. The BARCS meet has changed their dates several times over the last few years, so they do not have a "traditional" date. Most years the BARCS meet has been held on the last weekend in April. Last year the BARCS meet was scheduled for the first weekend in May, but they had bad weather and moved it to August, which as far as I know, everyone liked it then. If we move the Arvin meet one weekend back or one weekend up, we bump against the Riverside meet or the Hemet meet, something I did not want to do. So we really could not have it on a different weekend in May. There were really no open weekends in April. So when do you think we should have scheduled the Arvin meet? I can tell you this, if the BARCS meet was scheduled the same weekend as either Riverside or Hemet, it would have little to no impact, especially the same weekend as Hemet. No one
 going to Hemet would be also going to BARCS. Or if the BARCS meet could be moved to May 8, 9, it would work out a lot better.
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>I tried to work with Derek on this but basically got a lecture and no compromise. I'm sorry it is a conflict, as I do know many from the "north" who would like to go to Arvin. It's a great place to fly!
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>On Feb 24, 2010, at 12:01 AM, krishlan fitzsimmons wrote:
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>Just looking over contests for the year and wondering why Arvin is being held the same weekend as Richmond. Richmond is held around that time every year depending on weather if I remember correctly.. I hate to miss Arvin because of this situation. I really like flying there. Bummer to have the lower turnout at Arvin because of this because I'm sure many from the north would travel there..
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>Are these dates correct?
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>Thanks!
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