[NSRCA-dist7] Contest conflicts

Thu Feb 25 00:12:19 AKST 2010

Hey Kris,

You fired the first shot at me. I just fired back. Don't see how I or  
you could take it any other way.

Sure I fly in the heat. But not all day and not staring in the sky  
judging for a couple of hours. It has been proven down here over the  
years that contests are lightly attended when held in the summer.

This was all discussed at the NSRCA meeting at the AMA show. I was  
surprised when you started this post about it. We would have liked a  
better option to have happened but it didn't. We know we will be  
missing some of the NoCal fliers, but we really have no other choice.  
Maybe it will work out better in the future.

Tony

On Feb 25, 2010, at 12:59 AM, krishlan fitzsimmons wrote:

> Tony,
>
> Wow.. I feel somewhat attacked..
>
> Constructive? lol.. Too funny.. Not sure why you are taking this out  
> on me..I love Arvin.. Never said a negative word about it. I love  
> the field.. Not sure why you are trying to put that on me Tony.. But  
> here's my response cuz apparently you want one....
> I live in the valley Tony, do you think I don't fly in the heat? Or  
> do you think the heat only happens down there? I live in the same  
> valley as Arvin (3 hours north) .. Heck, if you remember, I used to  
> live down there also. So do you quit flying during those months?  
> lol.. I doubt it.  I used to fly in it.. Heck, I don't don't care  
> what the temp, I'm flying, and attending contests..  Hell, I'm  
> holding Oakdale just before July.. I'm guessing 100 degrees.. But  
> people will show.. I have no doubt.. They love the field and the  
> contest. Plus I'll buy shades if I have to.. And I am planning on  
> buying the soda's and waters.. Contests can happen in the heat.. The  
> CD just has to make them happen..
>
> Hope I'm taking this wrong and that you aren't attacking me.. Just  
> feels that way..
>
> Hope the weather down there is better than here!
>
> Best regards!
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Anthony Frackowiak <frackowiak at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT" <nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 12:03:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist7] Contest conflicts
>
> Kris,
>
> Very constructive reply. It's good to see that the club that has  
> hosted the District Championships for the last several years is so  
> worthy of your support.
>
> Do you have any idea why there are no contests in July, August and  
> September in SoCal? Do you want to go to a contest with 95 to 100  
> degree days? That's why.
>
> I have asked for input on when to hold the Arvin contest and I have  
> received no responses. You asked for an explanation on why we picked  
> the date and I gave you one. In my opinion, my case has been made  
> with Derek's "I'll take my ball home" response. Who really has been  
> the inflexible one here?
>
> Have a good day.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2010, at 11:37 PM, krishlan fitzsimmons wrote:
>
>> I hope you don't Derek.
>>
>> I really enjoy your contest (as do many others) and after reading  
>> what was posted I wouldn't want to go to Arvin now anyway.. I'll  
>> help you cd if needed! I'm actually a little suprised by the  
>> response I got. There are no so cal contests in most of June, all  
>> of July, August and September.. IMO something in that time frame is  
>> a little better for a new southern contest.. But then again, who am  
>> I? lol...
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at comcast.net>
>> To: "CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT" <nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 9:38:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist7] Contest conflicts
>>
>> The “lecture” I gave Tony was to be more flexible with his date as  
>> it is a new contest and shouldn’t conflict with traditional  
>> dates.   The BARCS contest has always been held the last week of  
>> April  but for the past several years we’ve had weather issues on  
>> that weekend and for the 1st time last year we moved the date to  
>> the 1st weekend in May.  Guess what?  We got rained out again – so  
>> we decided to keep it at the 1st weekend in May going forward since  
>> we felt our odds would be better.  Since it didn’t interfere or  
>> conflict with any traditional contests in previous years we thought  
>> we’d be ok.  Our board is limited to the dates we can use and  
>> moving it to the following weekend won’t work (Mother’s Day).  I’m  
>> not going back either since that conflicts with other activities.
>>
>> The only other option I have is to cancel the contest – which I  
>> what I’m leaning toward anyway.  I’m tired of this bickering back  
>> and forth about who said what, etc.
>>
>> From: nsrca-dist7-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-dist7-bounces at lists.nsrca.org 
>> ] On Behalf Of Anthony Frackowiak
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:06 AM
>> To: CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist7] Contest conflicts
>>
>> Kris,
>>
>> When Leon and I set the date for the Arvin contest we looked at the  
>> last several years of the contest schedule. The BARCS meet has  
>> changed their dates several times over the last few years, so they  
>> do not have a "traditional" date. Most years the BARCS meet has  
>> been held on the last weekend in April. Last year the BARCS meet  
>> was scheduled for the first weekend in May, but they had bad  
>> weather and moved it to August, which as far as I know, everyone  
>> liked it then. If we move the Arvin meet one weekend back or one  
>> weekend up, we bump against the Riverside meet or the Hemet meet,  
>> something I did not want to do. So we really could not have it on a  
>> different weekend in May. There were really no open weekends in  
>> April. So when do you think we should have scheduled the Arvin  
>> meet? I can tell you this, if the BARCS meet was scheduled the same  
>> weekend as either Riverside or Hemet, it would have little to no  
>> impact, especially the same weekend as Hemet. No one going to Hemet  
>> would be also going to BARCS. Or if the BARCS meet could be moved  
>> to May 8, 9, it would work out a lot better.
>>
>> I tried to work with Derek on this but basically got a lecture and  
>> no compromise. I'm sorry it is a conflict, as I do know many from  
>> the "north" who would like to go to Arvin. It's a great place to fly!
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2010, at 12:01 AM, krishlan fitzsimmons wrote:
>>
>>
>> Just looking over contests for the year and wondering why Arvin is  
>> being held the same weekend as Richmond. Richmond is held around  
>> that time every year depending on weather if I remember correctly..  
>> I hate to miss Arvin because of this situation. I really like  
>> flying there. Bummer to have the lower turnout at Arvin because of  
>> this because I'm sure many from the north would travel there..
>>
>> Are these dates correct?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
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