[NSRCA-dist1] PatternScoring System

Mon Nov 9 06:39:54 AKST 2015

Need to get people to pre-register at least a week or so before a 
contest even if they are not 100% sure they are going to attend. It is 
easy to delete a pilot in the program. If you're not 100% sure, send the 
CD an email to let him know that for planning purposes. The CD's need 
there people as well as themselves to be proficient in running the 
program or at least familiarized/re-fmiliarized with it at least a month 
in advance. And someone else should come prepared with a backup laptop 
just in case or the CD should have a backup available. As a CD, I always 
prepared months in advance to avoid problems. The more people that 
pre-register in advance the easier registration is on contest day and 
makes it less stressful for a CD.

Joe Lachowski

On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 09:55 AM, Dana Beaton via NSRCA-dist1 wrote:

Great conversation, thanks all!  What is looks like to me as the first 
D1 Scoring Team volunteer (feel free to pile on, err, volunteer to help 
in 2016):

Printers:
Sal reminds us that if they are not used, they may not work when we need 
them at a contest.  This suggests that CDs continue to bring their 
trusty printers to their contests.  That said, Joe has generously 
offered his printer to D1 as a back-up: D1 Scoring Team can bring Joe’s 
donated printer to contests, just in case.  A Win-win for D1!  I agree 
with Scott that a printer is basic equipment.  While pilot report PDFs 
can be mailed after the contest, just printing them out on the spot 
allows the CD’s job to end with the contest (and not have more work to 
do the next day at home).

Monitors
The thought of fitting a large monitor in the mini van amongst all the 
other stuff I bring to contests is not appealing.  Would suggest that a 
large display monitor be offered at the option of any CD who wished to 
provide one, and not become a D1 Scoring Team item. (Unless we have 
volunteers who would like to cart it around to contests next year?)

Smart Phones
May be the way to go if and when scores can be displayed in real time 
AND there is internet connectivity at the contest site such that scores 
can be uploaded from MS to server AND contestants can view a web page 
scoreboard.  Would solve a lot of problems if connectivity is not an 
issue. Thoughts?

Laptops:
THE core issue.  We have some in D1 that run MS well; and some not so 
much.  Apparently a clean installation on a relatively recent windows 
version is key.  A few of us at the LV have not had much success with 
older, legacy windows versions, so that makes sense.  This is both a 
local contest/CD issue, as well as a D1 issue, since an uncooperative 
laptop at any contest affects D1 members.  As Dave called out, last 
minute, one man (CD or scorekeeper) set-ups have not served us well last 
season and some preparation is prudent. What would a D1 Scoring Team 
solution look like? Any suggestions?

On Nov 6, 2015, at 5:37 AM, Ed Alt via NSRCA-dist1 
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wrote:

Yep, several of us were doing that with our phones at Canandaigua.  You 
really could take a minimalist approach and skip the display monitor. 
 It's a nice to have, not a necessity.

On Nov 6, 2015, at 5:32 AM, Scott Smith via NSRCA-dist1 
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wrote:

By browsing to www.PatternScoring.com <http://www.patternscoring.com/>

One of the functions of Peter's adapter is uploading contest data (JSON 
output from MS) to his web server.  When the data is refreshed, any 
client browser is automatically updated.  That's the scoreboard.

MS will have the upload feature next year so as scores are entered, data 
can be uploaded and people can view it real time.   

I think everyone at Ken's contest is a believer of this technology.... 
http://www.patternscoring.com/98d96681-98e6-4ca1-a7d5-b8cbe63c0786 
<http://www.patternscoring.com/98d96681-98e6-4ca1-a7d5-b8cbe63c0786>

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 7:10 PM, S Piu via NSRCA-dist1 
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wrote:

Scott,

         Intrigued:  how do you propose people use their cell phones to
       retrieve score-status-results mid-way during the contest?

       Sal

       On 11/5/2015 5:36 AM, Scott Smith wrote:

If you have computers (plural) at the field, you
         don't need something like Pi.  

You can't use the scoring computer to render the scoreboard
           unless it has dual monitor outputs.  You also don't need a
           scoreboard, people could just use their phones.

I would still consider a printer to be part of required
           "minimum equipment"

I believe the direction Peter is going is to use his app in
           conjunction with Master Scoring.  MS has the reports, Nat's
           scheduling, matrix and TBL.  He wants his system to be used 
at
           the Nat's and the easiest way to do that is interface with
           MS.  His "adaptor" then just has to manage the iPods.  You 
can
           run a local contest with just his software, but setup and
           reporting may be easier with MS.  

You can read more about it at www.PatternScoring.com 
<http://www.patternscoring.com/>
           (there is a manual there you can download for more info)

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 7:55 PM, S Piu <spiurc at comcast.net 
<mailto:spiurc at comcast.net> >
           wrote:

I'm not sure if my prior post-attempts made it to
                 everyone, so some of this may be a repeat:

                 First, I'm  not in favor of a district-shared printer. 
                 I've had two printers go to dry-ink conditions from 
lack
                 of constant use, which would be a very likely scenario
                 between contest seasons for D1. While new ink 
cartridges
                 easily resolves this issue, via purchase immediately
                 prior to a contest, the dry ink within the printer can
                 be challenging to recover from.

                 Second, having experience running a contest essentially
                 by myself, I am intrigued if the Vogel system could 
ease
                 my workload with score-entry.    If a local WiFi needs
                 to be set up to enable it, this presents the problem of
                 wifi distance/range limitations or requirements. 
                 Site-specific arrangements will need to be considered. 
                 My site probably has too great of distances to
                 effectively use Wifi due to electric source via
                 generator arrangement (which is set up to support local
                 in-place structures that are intentionally far away 
from
                 the flight line).  Therefore, is there a long-wired
                 option with the Vogel system  to consider?

                 As you recall, at my last hosted-event, I used an
                 erasable marking board, which seams to satisfy pilot's
                 thirst for placement info entering the last few rounds.
                 I use the Master Scoring software which will very 
easily
                 generate each pilot's data and statistics for the 
entire
                 event that can easily be emailed to anyone requesting
                 their info.

                   Regarding Raspberry Pi:  why bother with a Pi if 
we're
                 already bringing laptops to the event, for software
                 scoring purposes, which could also display on the big
                 screen TV via HDMI port?  On the flip side, if Scott
                 Smith's Master Scoring program could be made to work on
                 the PI, then PI would be another smaller package and
                 cheaper alternative versus bringing out a laptop or
                 desktop PC.

                    I wonder if the Vogel system use a Pi and/or a PC
                 laptop/desktop ?

                 Sal

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                 On 11/2/2015 7:07 PM, Dave Lockhart via NSRCA-dist1
                 wrote:

I’d

                       be fine with a video scoreboard.  Pilot tares /
                       stats can be emailed at the end of the contest.

Dave

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                           PatternScoring System

Not much. We need hard copy to
                       share out the pilot stats at the end of the
                       contest. 

                       Sent from my iPhone

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