[NSRCA-discussion] New Masters Sequence

John Gayer jgghome at comcast.net
Fri Jul 7 19:41:39 AKDT 2017


Tony,
We all have a problem when looking at a sequence we didn't originate. 
Compound that with the problem of being too defensive about sequences we 
did originate. Instead of calling for fresh paper, see what you do to 
fix what is in front of you.
There is no requirement in the guide that a certain percentage of the 
maneuvers have to already be in the guide. So anything goes. Looking at 
what is in the sequence below, all the maneuvers are variations on items 
in the guide, with the exception of the two integrated maneuvers which 
do exceed the intent expressed in the guide. The loop could be changed 
to a 4-pt over 180 and the golf ball could be changed to 1/2 rolls(no 
integration) or a completely different maneuver such as a humpty with 
3/4 rolls for some variation. That meets the requirements.
John


On 7/7/2017 6:37 PM, Frackowiak Tony wrote:
> Both of the cross box maneuvers have no options to stay in line. No 
> such requirement exists, obviously could be put in.
>
> Every Square Vertical 8 in the current Guide has a K of 5. Why would 
> this one be a 4? Perhaps it is time to downgrade this class of 
> maneuvers. They are not as difficult as they were when defined years 
> ago. No where near as difficult as the bowtie you stuck us with.
>
> Downwind KE Golf Ball is still a poor choice and should have a K of 5. 
> Current knife edge humpty is a 4 and downwind. Kfactors have to cover 
> a range of difficulty and this doesn't merit a 5. What would you 
> replace it with?
>
> The KE flight with 1 1/4 rolls without some definition of the length 
> of the KE will end up being two 1 1/4 rolls. Plus simple KE flight in 
> the current Guide is a K4. Why should this be a K4 with the addition 
> of two 1 1/4 rolls? Should be a 5. Not enough difficulty addition to 
> bump it up to a 5. Look at it as  two 1 1/4 rolls with a long 
> hesitation. Why is that a 5? The eventual maneuver guide should 
> specify length of the knife edge.
>
> Two rolls reversed in the Current Guide is a K4. The elimination of 
> the pause makes this a more difficult maneuver yet it stays at K4? 
> Should at least be a 5. Take out the "no hesitation" and keep it at 4.
>
> I'm sorry, but in my opinion this needs a fresh piece of paper and 
> start over. Start by making the composition of the Sequence Committee 
> according to the Charter.
>
> Tony Frackowiak
>
> On Jul 7, 2017, at 4:35 PM, John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
>
>> Let's try this one.
>>
>>
>> 	Maneuver 	KF 	Exit 	
>> 	Change maneuver to: 	New K 	new exit
>> 1 	Takeoff 	1 				1 	
>> 2 	Double Immelman with Knife Edge Flight inside loop then outside 
>> loop 	5 	Upright 	U 	Triangle Loop from top, 1/2 rolls on 45's, 1 1/2 
>> snap on top leg, 	5 	inverted
>> 3 	1/2 Loop with Integrated 1/2 Roll 	3 	Upright 	TA 	2 1/2 turn 
>> inverted spin 	3 	inverted
>> 4 	Triangle Loop from top, 1/2 rolls on 45's, 1 1/2 snap on top leg 
>> 5 	inverted 	D 	Double Immelman with Knife Edge Flight outside loop 
>> then inside loop 	5 	upright
>> 5 	1/2 Square Loop with Snap Roll in down track 	4 	Upright 	TA 	Top 
>> Hat, 3 of 4 Roll up, 3/4 Roll down 	2 	inverted
>> 6 	Six-sided Loop, 2 of 4 Rolls in leg 2, two 1/4 Rolls opposite in 
>> leg 4 	4 	inverted 	U 	Six-sided Loop, 2 of 4 Rolls in leg 2 and 4 	4 
>> 	inverted
>> 7 	Humpty Bump with Roll Options, 2 of 2 Roll up, Full Roll down; or 
>> 3/4 Roll up and down 	3 	Upright 	TA 	Stall Turn with two 1/4 Rolls 
>> down 	2 	upright
>> 8 	Knife Edge Flight with 1 ¼ Roll in and out 	4 	inverted 	D 	Knife 
>> Edge Flight with 1 ¼ Roll in and out 	4 	upright
>> 9 	Stall Turn with two 1/4 Rolls opposite up, 1/2 Roll down 	3 
>> Upright 	TA 	Stall Turn with two 1/4 Rollsup, 1/2 Roll down 	3 	upright
>> 10 	Vertical Cuban 8 with 1/2 Roll, Full Roll 	4 	Inverted 	U 
>> Vertical square 8 from bottom,full roll at mid-level, 1/2 roll 2nd 
>> mid-level 	4 	inverted
>> 11 	Trombone with Roll 	2 	Upright 	TA 	reverse shark, snap on 45 	4 
>> upright
>> 12 	Golf Ball with 3/4 Rolls and Knife Edge Loop 	4 	Upright 	D 	Golf 
>> Ball with 1/4 Rolls and Knife Edge Loop 	4 	inverted
>> 13 	Top Hat, 3 of 4 Roll up, 3/4 Roll down 	2 	Upright 	TA 	Humpty 
>> Bump push top, 3/4 Roll up and down 	2 	upright
>> 14 	Figure Z with 4 of 8 Roll in 45 	4 	Inverted 	U 		4 	
>> 15 	Inverted 2-turn Spin	2 	Upright 	TA 	1/2 square loop with full 
>> roll 	2 	upright
>> 16 	Two Slow Rolls opposite, no hesitation 	4 	Upright 	D 		4 	
>> 17 	Stall turn with half rolls up and down 	2 	Upright 	TA 		2 	
>> 18 	Loop with Integrated Roll in top 180 	5 	Upright 	U 		5 	
>> 19 	Landing 	1 				1 	
>> 							
>> 	Total K-factor 	62 				61 	
>>
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