[NSRCA-discussion] New Masters Sequence

Ed Alt ed_alt at hotmail.com
Fri Jul 7 17:35:26 AKDT 2017


Yep


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From: NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on behalf of Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 9:33 PM
To: Stuart Chale
Cc: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Masters Sequence

Well, there's the problem. The Sequence Committee is supposed to be creating patterns using the Sequence Development Guide, not the F3A catalog. So it should be using K-Factors from the Guide.

Tony Frackowiak

On Jul 7, 2017, at 6:19 PM, Stuart Chale wrote:

Some of the K factors like the knife edge roll are taken from the FAI catalog.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 7, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:

Both of the cross box maneuvers have no options to stay in line.

Every Square Vertical 8 in the current Guide has a K of 5. Why would this one be a 4?

Downwind KE Golf Ball is still a poor choice and should have a K of 5.

The KE flight with 1 1/4 rolls without some definition of the length of the KE will end up being two 1 1/4 rolls. Plus simple KE flight in the current Guide is a K4. Why should this be a K4 with the addition of two 1 1/4 rolls? Should be a 5.

Two rolls reversed in the Current Guide is a K4. The elimination of the pause makes this a more difficult maneuver yet it stays at K4? Should at least be a 5.

I'm sorry, but in my opinion this needs a fresh piece of paper and start over. Start by making the composition of the Sequence Committee according to the Charter.

Tony Frackowiak

On Jul 7, 2017, at 4:35 PM, John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion wrote:

Let's try this one.


        Maneuver        KF      Exit
        Change maneuver to:     New K   new exit
1       Takeoff 1                               1
2       Double Immelman with Knife Edge Flight inside loop then outside loop    5       Upright U       Triangle Loop from top, 1/2 rolls on 45's, 1 1/2 snap on top leg,       5       inverted
3       1/2 Loop with Integrated 1/2 Roll       3       Upright TA      2 1/2 turn inverted spin        3       inverted
4       Triangle Loop from top, 1/2 rolls on 45's, 1 1/2 snap on top leg        5       inverted        D       Double Immelman with Knife Edge Flight outside loop then inside loop    5       upright
5        1/2 Square Loop with Snap Roll in down track   4       Upright TA      Top Hat, 3 of 4 Roll up, 3/4 Roll down  2       inverted
6        Six-sided Loop, 2 of 4 Rolls in leg 2, two 1/4 Rolls opposite in leg 4 4       inverted        U       Six-sided Loop, 2 of 4 Rolls in leg 2 and 4     4       inverted
7       Humpty Bump with Roll Options, 2 of 2 Roll up, Full Roll down; or 3/4 Roll up and down  3       Upright TA      Stall Turn with two 1/4 Rolls down      2       upright
8       Knife Edge Flight with 1 ¼ Roll in and out      4       inverted        D       Knife Edge Flight with 1 ¼ Roll in and out      4       upright
9       Stall Turn with two 1/4 Rolls opposite up, 1/2 Roll down        3       Upright TA      Stall Turn with two 1/4 Rolls  up, 1/2 Roll down        3       upright
10      Vertical Cuban 8 with 1/2 Roll, Full Roll       4       Inverted        U       Vertical square 8 from bottom,  full roll at mid-level, 1/2 roll 2nd mid-level  4       inverted
11      Trombone with Roll      2       Upright TA      reverse shark, snap on 45       4       upright
12       Golf Ball with 3/4 Rolls and Knife Edge Loop   4       Upright D       Golf Ball with 1/4 Rolls and Knife Edge Loop    4       inverted
13       Top Hat, 3 of 4 Roll up, 3/4 Roll down 2       Upright TA      Humpty Bump push top, 3/4 Roll up and down      2       upright
14       Figure Z with 4 of 8 Roll in 45        4       Inverted        U               4
15       Inverted 2-turn Spin   2       Upright TA      1/2 square loop with full roll  2       upright
16      Two Slow Rolls opposite, no hesitation  4       Upright D               4
17       Stall turn with half rolls up and down 2       Upright TA              2
18      Loop with Integrated Roll in top 180    5       Upright U               5
19      Landing 1                               1

        Total K-factor  62                              61
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