[NSRCA-discussion] Judging

[Vicente Bortone]

One posible interpretation  is that the pilot introduced an element that is
not supposed to be there.   I will agree if the up line included roll
element and pilot miss to stop the roll and correct.    A judge could get
this interpretation that is allowed in the rule book.



On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:12 AM Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com> wrote:

> Agree.   Historically the error is downgraded, not the correction.  If you
> miss a Spin or a Snap by 45 degrees, you will see a 3pt down grade… not 6
> (which you would get if they downgraded both the miss, and the correction).
>
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> On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Daniel Underkofler via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
> Have to disagree Vince.
> If turbulence causes a wings out-of-level condition, there is no downgrade
> if the pilot corrects quickly.
> In this scenario, where, as you state, it is clearly a pilot error, he
> gets 1 pt per 15deg = 5pt downgrade.  He should not be penalized for making
> the correction - that would be double jeopardy, which is dealt with in the
> rules.
> Dan
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Don,
>>
>> 75 degree roll is more than expected for a correction due to turbulence.
>> Therefore, clearly it has been done by the pilot and cannot be interpreted
>> as a correction due to turbulence that is the only one allowed in the
>> rulebook.  Therefore, the option No1 appears the best option since the
>> pilot introduced an element that was not suppose to be there.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Another judging question:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Senario:  An upline is flown that requires no rolls.  The pilot executes
>>> a partial roll that turns about 75 degrees then immediately returns to
>>> vertical as specified in the maneuver description.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Two choices seem to be available:
>>>
>>> 1.        0 the maneuver because 2 turns have been made that require 5
>>> pt downgrade each.  Errors are initial roll and roll that returns the mode
>>> to the correct attitude.
>>>
>>> 2.        Score it a 5 because only one error was made and a correction
>>> was made to return the model to the correct attitude.  Do not downgrade the
>>> correction.
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