[NSRCA-discussion] Judging

[Atwood, Mark]

Agree.   Historically the error is downgraded, not the correction.  If you miss a Spin or a Snap by 45 degrees, you will see a 3pt down grade… not 6 (which you would get if they downgraded both the miss, and the correction).




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On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Daniel Underkofler via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:

Have to disagree Vince.
If turbulence causes a wings out-of-level condition, there is no downgrade if the pilot corrects quickly.
In this scenario, where, as you state, it is clearly a pilot error, he gets 1 pt per 15deg = 5pt downgrade.  He should not be penalized for making the correction - that would be double jeopardy, which is dealt with in the rules.
Dan

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
Hi Don,

75 degree roll is more than expected for a correction due to turbulence.  Therefore, clearly it has been done by the pilot and cannot be interpreted as a correction due to turbulence that is the only one allowed in the rulebook.  Therefore, the option No1 appears the best option since the pilot introduced an element that was not suppose to be there.

Best,


Vicente "Vince" Bortone

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
Another judging question:

Senario:  An upline is flown that requires no rolls.  The pilot executes a partial roll that turns about 75 degrees then immediately returns to vertical as specified in the maneuver description.

Two choices seem to be available:

1.        0 the maneuver because 2 turns have been made that require 5 pt downgrade each.  Errors are initial roll and roll that returns the mode to the correct attitude.

2.        Score it a 5 because only one error was made and a correction was made to return the model to the correct attitude.  Do not downgrade the correction.

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