[NSRCA-discussion] Quad Racing

Fri Jan 8 17:47:09 AKST 2016

Uh it sounds like you’re actually flying your FPV. Didn’t you read the instructions? You’re supposed to let it fly by itself! Then you’ll have time to do more important things like learn how to build home-made bombs and hack into people’s computers and steal their identity.

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Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 9:29 PM
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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Quad Racing

I was dabbling in FPV a few years ago before I got into Sportman pattern.  I recently built a 250 quad.  That's mostly what I've flown for the last few months.  I don't intend to give up flying fixed wing pattern and 3D but have to say flying an FPV mini quad is a blast.  I'm nowhere's near doing what the hot racers do, I'm just starting to fly through a couple practice gates made of pool noodles.  But even that is a blast.  Of course, after the 400 foot rule they'll figure out some way of banning all outdoor FPV.  Then it will be indoor FPV racing with micro quads (which I'm starting to get into also).

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Today's Topics:

  1. the future (John Gayer)
  2. Re: the future (Ted Sander)
  3. Re: the future (cahochhalter)
  4. Re: the future (John Gayer)
  5. Re: the future (ronlock at comcast.net)
  6. Re: the future (Dana Beaton)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 10:53:59 -0700
From: John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net>
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If the 400 foot rule ends up being enforced(by AMA), this would be a fun 
alternative that might keep me from retiring and taking up bridge.

If you can't beat em, join em.

http://www.uavexpertnews.com/drone-racing-aiming-to-be-the-next-big-extreme-sport/
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 12:10:08 -0600
From: Ted Sander <tedsander at comcast.net>
To: John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net>, General pattern discussion
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Drone racing is a big miss for the AMA.  Huge for recruitment, and probably for local club recruitment also.

> On Jan 8, 2016, at 11:53 AM, John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> If the 400 foot rule ends up being enforced(by AMA), this would be a fun alternative that might keep me from retiring and taking up bridge.
> 
> If you can't beat em, join em.
> 
> http://www.uavexpertnews.com/drone-racing-aiming-to-be-the-next-big-extreme-sport/
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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 12:14:05 -0600
From: cahochhalter <cahochhalter at yahoo.com>
To: John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net>, General pattern discussion
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We could go back to pre turnaround, with a minimum speed of 100mph, max height of 100ft, bonus points for under 20ft.
Chuck

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Date: 01/08/2016  11:53 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
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    If the 400 foot rule ends up being enforced(by AMA), this would be a
    fun alternative that might keep me from retiring and taking up
    bridge.

    If you can't beat em, join em.

http://www.uavexpertnews.com/drone-racing-aiming-to-be-the-next-big-extreme-sport/

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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 11:36:09 -0700
From: John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net>
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As I recall, there was a lot of beer involved in those minimum altitude 
rolls.
Hmmmm, rolling the clock back /might/ work....

On 1/8/2016 11:14 AM, cahochhalter wrote:
> We could go back to pre turnaround, with a minimum speed of 100mph, 
> max height of 100ft, bonus points for under 20ft.
>
> Chuck
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> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: 01/08/2016 11:53 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] the future
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> If the 400 foot rule ends up being enforced(by AMA), this would be a 
> fun alternative that might keep me from retiring and taking up bridge.
>
> If you can't beat em, join em.
>
> http://www.uavexpertnews.com/drone-racing-aiming-to-be-the-next-big-extreme-sport/

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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:23:08 +0000 (UTC)
From: ronlock at comcast.net
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If we want to take a shot at keeping what we have, the deadline for comments to FAA is Jan 15th. 
? 

Find form to make online comments and AMA suggestions for content here: 

http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2015/12/28/guidance-on-submitting-comments-to-the-faas-interim-rule-on-uas-registration/ 

? 

Find your state Senators and House representative, and addresses here: 

http://www.house.gov/content/learn/partners/senate.php 

Ron Lockhart 
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As I recall, there was a lot of beer involved in those minimum altitude rolls. 
Hmmmm, rolling the clock back might work.... 

On 1/8/2016 11:14 AM, cahochhalter wrote: 

We could go back to pre turnaround, with a minimum speed of 100mph, max height of 100ft, bonus points for under 20ft. 

Chuck 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone 

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Date: 01/08/2016 11:53 AM (GMT-06:00) 
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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] the future 

If the 400 foot rule ends up being enforced(by AMA), this would be a fun alternative that might keep me from retiring and taking up bridge. 

If you can't beat em, join em. 

http://www.uavexpertnews.com/drone-racing-aiming-to-be-the-next-big-extreme-sport/ 

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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:38:30 -0500
From: Dana Beaton <danamaenia at me.com>
To: Ron Lockhart <ronlock at comcast.net>, General pattern discussion
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] the future
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FWIW here is what my comments looked like based on AMA?s suggestion:

As a member of the Academy of Model Aeronautics (AMA), I am disappointed with the new rule for UAS registration. I am a long time model aircraft flyer, who has operated under the guidance of the largest community-based organization (CBO) in the world for many years. 

Since 1936, AMA has published safety standards and offered training programs for our members - more than 20 years before the FAA was created. Our National Model Aircraft Safety Code has been recognized by Congress as well as by state legislatures as a safe and effective means of managing model aircraft enthusiasts like me.

Additionally, AMA's safety program already instructs me to place my AMA number or name and address on or within my model aircraft(s), effectively accomplishing the safety and accountability objectives of the interim rule. 

The new rule is contrary to the intent of Congress in Section 336 of the 2012 FAA Modernization and Reform Act. Section 336, also referred to as the "Special Rule for Model Aircraft," clearly prohibits the FAA from promulgating any new rules for recreational users operating within the safety guidelines of a CBO. In addition, the FAA's contention that model aircraft should be considered aircraft is currently the subject of pending litigation. 

The registration process is an unnecessary burden for me and the more than 185,000 other AMA members. AMA members should not be required to register with the FAA.

(All comments can be submitted at http://1.usa.gov/1Jegj0C)

> On Jan 8, 2016, at 3:23 PM, ronlock--- via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
> 
> If we want to take a shot at keeping what we have, the deadline for comments to FAA is Jan 15th.
>  
> Find form to make online comments and AMA suggestions for content here:
> http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2015/12/28/guidance-on-submitting-comments-to-the-faas-interim-rule-on-uas-registration/
>  
> Find your state Senators and House representative, and addresses here:
> http://www.house.gov/content/learn/partners/senate.php
> 
> Ron Lockhart
> From: "John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 1:36:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] the future
> 
> As I recall, there was a lot of beer involved in those minimum altitude rolls.
> Hmmmm, rolling the clock back might work....
> 
> On 1/8/2016 11:14 AM, cahochhalter wrote:
> We could go back to pre turnaround, with a minimum speed of 100mph, max height of 100ft, bonus points for under 20ft.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
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> Date: 01/08/2016 11:53 AM (GMT-06:00) 
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> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] the future 
> 
> If the 400 foot rule ends up being enforced(by AMA), this would be a fun alternative that might keep me from retiring and taking up bridge.
> 
> If you can't beat em, join em.
> 
> http://www.uavexpertnews.com/drone-racing-aiming-to-be-the-next-big-extreme-sport/ <http://www.uavexpertnews.com/drone-racing-aiming-to-be-the-next-big-extreme-sport/>
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