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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 10:53:59 -0700<br>
From: John Gayer <<a href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">jgghome@comcast.net</a>><br>
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If the 400 foot rule ends up being enforced(by AMA), this would be a fun <br>
alternative that might keep me from retiring and taking up bridge.<br>
<br>
If you can't beat em, join em.<br>
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 12:10:08 -0600<br>
From: Ted Sander <<a href="mailto:tedsander@comcast.net">tedsander@comcast.net</a>><br>
To: John Gayer <<a href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">jgghome@comcast.net</a>>,
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Drone racing is a big miss for the AMA. Huge for recruitment, and
probably for local club recruitment also.<br>
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> On Jan 8, 2016, at 11:53 AM, John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
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> <br>
> If the 400 foot rule ends up being enforced(by AMA), this would be a fun
alternative that might keep me from retiring and taking up bridge.<br>
> <br>
> If you can't beat em, join em.<br>
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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 12:14:05 -0600<br>
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To: John Gayer <<a href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">jgghome@comcast.net</a>>,
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We could go back to pre turnaround, with a minimum speed of 100mph, max height
of 100ft, bonus points for under 20ft.<br>
Chuck<br>
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Date: 01/08/2016 11:53 AM (GMT-06:00) <br>
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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] the future <br>
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If the 400 foot rule ends up being enforced(by AMA), this would
be a<br>
fun alternative that might keep me from retiring and taking up<br>
bridge.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
If you can't beat em, join em.<br>
<br>
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 11:36:09 -0700<br>
From: John Gayer <<a href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">jgghome@comcast.net</a>><br>
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As I recall, there was a lot of beer involved in those minimum altitude <br>
rolls.<br>
Hmmmm, rolling the clock back /might/ work....<br>
<br>
On 1/8/2016 11:14 AM, cahochhalter wrote:<br>
> We could go back to pre turnaround, with a minimum speed of 100mph, <br>
> max height of 100ft, bonus points for under 20ft.<br>
><br>
> Chuck<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone<br>
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> From: John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
> Date: 01/08/2016 11:53 AM (GMT-06:00)<br>
> To: NSRCA Mailing List <<a
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> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] the future<br>
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> If the 400 foot rule ends up being enforced(by AMA), this would be a <br>
> fun alternative that might keep me from retiring and taking up bridge.<br>
><br>
> If you can't beat em, join em.<br>
><br>
> <a
href="http://www.uavexpertnews.com/drone-racing-aiming-to-be-the-next-big-extreme-sport/"
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:23:08 +0000 (UTC)<br>
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If we want to take a shot at keeping what we have, the deadline for comments to
FAA is Jan 15th. <br>
? <br>
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As I recall, there was a lot of beer involved in those minimum altitude rolls. <br>
Hmmmm, rolling the clock back might work.... <br>
<br>
On 1/8/2016 11:14 AM, cahochhalter wrote: <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
We could go back to pre turnaround, with a minimum speed of 100mph, max height
of 100ft, bonus points for under 20ft. <br>
<br>
Chuck <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone <br>
<br>
<br>
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From: John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion <<a
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Date: 01/08/2016 11:53 AM (GMT-06:00) <br>
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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] the future <br>
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If the 400 foot rule ends up being enforced(by AMA), this would be a fun
alternative that might keep me from retiring and taking up bridge. <br>
<br>
If you can't beat em, join em. <br>
<br>
<a
href="http://www.uavexpertnews.com/drone-racing-aiming-to-be-the-next-big-extreme-sport/"
target="_blank">http://www.uavexpertnews.com/drone-racing-aiming-to-be-the-next-big-extreme-sport/
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:38:30 -0500<br>
From: Dana Beaton <<a href="mailto:danamaenia@me.com">danamaenia@me.com</a>><br>
To: Ron Lockhart <<a href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net">ronlock@comcast.net</a>>,
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FWIW here is what my comments looked like based on AMA?s suggestion:<br>
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As a member of the Academy of Model Aeronautics (AMA), I am disappointed with
the new rule for UAS registration. I am a long time model aircraft flyer, who
has operated under the guidance of the largest community-based organization
(CBO) in the world for many years. <br>
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Since 1936, AMA has published safety standards and offered training programs
for our members - more than 20 years before the FAA was created. Our National
Model Aircraft Safety Code has been recognized by Congress as well as by state
legislatures as a safe and effective means of managing model aircraft enthusiasts
like me.<br>
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Additionally, AMA's safety program already instructs me to place my AMA number
or name and address on or within my model aircraft(s), effectively
accomplishing the safety and accountability objectives of the interim rule. <br>
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The new rule is contrary to the intent of Congress in Section 336 of the 2012
FAA Modernization and Reform Act. Section 336, also referred to as the
"Special Rule for Model Aircraft," clearly prohibits the FAA from
promulgating any new rules for recreational users operating within the safety
guidelines of a CBO. In addition, the FAA's contention that model aircraft
should be considered aircraft is currently the subject of pending litigation. <br>
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The registration process is an unnecessary burden for me and the more than 185,000
other AMA members. AMA members should not be required to register with the FAA.<br>
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(All comments can be submitted at <a href="http://1.usa.gov/1Jegj0C"
target="_blank">http://1.usa.gov/1Jegj0C</a>)<br>
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> On Jan 8, 2016, at 3:23 PM, ronlock--- via NSRCA-discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
> <br>
> If we want to take a shot at keeping what we have, the deadline for
comments to FAA is Jan 15th.<br>
> <br>
> Find form to make online comments and AMA suggestions for content here:<br>
> <a
href="http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2015/12/28/guidance-on-submitting-comments-to-the-faas-interim-rule-on-uas-registration/"
target="_blank">http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2015/12/28/guidance-on-submitting-comments-to-the-faas-interim-rule-on-uas-registration/</a><br>
> <br>
> Find your state Senators and House representative, and addresses here:<br>
> <a href="http://www.house.gov/content/learn/partners/senate.php"
target="_blank">http://www.house.gov/content/learn/partners/senate.php</a><br>
> <br>
> Ron Lockhart<br>
> From: "John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion" <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <<a
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> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 1:36:09 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] the future<br>
> <br>
> As I recall, there was a lot of beer involved in those minimum altitude
rolls.<br>
> Hmmmm, rolling the clock back might work....<br>
> <br>
> On 1/8/2016 11:14 AM, cahochhalter wrote:<br>
> We could go back to pre turnaround, with a minimum speed of 100mph, max
height of 100ft, bonus points for under 20ft.<br>
> <br>
> Chuck<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone<br>
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> <br>
> -------- Original message --------<br>
> From: John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion <<a
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> Date: 01/08/2016 11:53 AM (GMT-06:00) <br>
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> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] the future <br>
> <br>
> If the 400 foot rule ends up being enforced(by AMA), this would be a fun
alternative that might keep me from retiring and taking up bridge.<br>
> <br>
> If you can't beat em, join em.<br>
> <br>
> <a
href="http://www.uavexpertnews.com/drone-racing-aiming-to-be-the-next-big-extreme-sport/"
target="_blank">http://www.uavexpertnews.com/drone-racing-aiming-to-be-the-next-big-extreme-sport/
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