[NSRCA-discussion] Cobra rolls

[George Kennie]

Some of you guys should consider stand up !

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Phil Spelt via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Wow. RVP -- thanks!!!  With help like that, I'll be winning FAI by next
> spring.  Look out, pilots!!!
>
> It is like when I had lip surgery.  I asked the surgeon how soon I could
> play the trumpet.  She said to let it heal for aobut 6 months and I should
> be good t oplay.  I said thaty's great. 'cause I can't play trumpet now.
> Ba-Da-boom...
>
>
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> *From: *"Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion" <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *To: *"General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 2, 2015 9:31:52 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cobra rolls
>
> No, that would be silly!  However, the pilot has to don special goggles so
> it looks like the airplane is under the water.
>
> Glad to be of assistance.
>
> Ron
>
> On Sep 2, 2015, at 7:26 PM, Phil Spelt via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
> Guys, I am really new to pattern.  Does the goldfish have to be done under
> water?  Else, how would the goldfish live???
>
>
>
>
>
> *Phil Spelt, KCRC Emeritus, SecretaryAMA 1294, Scientific Leader MemberSPA
> L-18, Board Member(865) 435-1476v  (865) 604-0541c*
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> *From: *"Stuart Chale via NSRCA-discussion" <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *To: *"DaveL322" <DaveL322 at comcast.net>, "General pattern discussion" <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 2, 2015 3:28:58 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cobra rolls
>
> Sure descriptive names like Comet and Bunt and clown dance and now Big M
> and eyecatcher.  All really describe the maneuver :)
> 2/3 (or 3/4) cuban eight or reverse cuban eight wasn't catchy enough.
> Sequence committee;   Lets call it a goldfish.
> FAI Sequence committee:  No that's an American name let's call it a
> comet.  Now thats cool!!
>
> For those that don't know my sense of humor insert tongue in cheek
> emoticon :-J
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> On 9/2/2015 3:16 PM, DaveL322 via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
>
> Exactly.
>
> A roll is a roll.
>
> A loop is a loop.
>
> A square loop with half rollS has multiple rollS just like a top hat with
> half rollS.
>
> Changing the name of the maneuver would make it consistent other maneuvers
> and, consistent with the maneuver description.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave
>
> Please pardon any spelling errors or brevity.....Sent on a Sprint Samsung
> Galaxy Note® 3
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: James Hiller via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: 09/02/2015 2:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: 'Don Ramsey' <donramsey at gmail.com> <donramsey at gmail.com>, 'General
> pattern discussion' <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cobra rolls
>
> It's been called that for 30+ years. Eliminating "Roll" in the description
> makes works for me.
>
> *From - Cobra Roll, 4 of 8 point rolls on 45 degree lines (U):*
>
> *To - Cobra, with 4 of 8 point rolls on 45 degree lines (U):*
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] *On Behalf Of *Don Ramsey via
> NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:17 AM
> *To:* 'General pattern discussion'
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cobra rolls
>
>
> BTW, why is Masters maneuver 17 call a “Cobra Roll” anyway?  It has
> nothing to do with a roll.  A better name might be “Cobra”.
>
>
>
> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] *On Behalf Of *DaveL322 via
> NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:52 AM
> *To:* Jon Lowe; General pattern discussion; Stuart Chale
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cobra rolls
>
>
> "Loop" equals 360 degrees.  Would not "roll" also equal 360 degrees?
>
>
> In AMA, 2 point roll, 4 point roll, and 8 point roll all convey a full
> rotation with no change in direction.
>
>
> Unless AMA adopts the FAI style of describing rolls, it seems a roll
> should be a roll?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> Please pardon any spelling errors or brevity.....Sent on a Sprint Samsung
> Galaxy Note® 3
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Jon Lowe via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: 09/02/2015 9:35 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: NSRCA <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>, Stuart Chale <
> schale1 at outlook.com>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cobra rolls
>
> Just looked at the maneuver description, and it doesn't specify roll
> direction.
>
> Jon Lowe
>
> On Sep 2, 2015 8:04 AM, Stuart Chale via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
> >
> > Is there a specified direction to the second portion of a cobra roll.
> > Roll in same direction as first half of the maneuver or is it pilots
> choice.
> > M17 has a Cobra roll with 4 of 8 on each half.
> > Thanks,
> > Stuart
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