[NSRCA-discussion] 2016 Advanced Figure M with 1/4 rolls

[John Gayer]

Good point

On 11/15/2015 6:18 PM, James Hiller via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
>
> Also, line correction is often needed which is more apparent after the 
> roll and I'd be more apt to give the correct commands looking at the 
> top of the airplane.
>
> Jim
>
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> Yes the canopy looks better- up close.
>
> Flying at 150 meters plus slant range to aircraft, it isn't highly 
> noticeable which side is presented. Also where is the downgrade?
> Typically, as a judge, I'm too busy to notice that there has been an 
> effort to present the fuse top. I'm looking at radii, roll centering, 
> straight lines, quality of stall turns, altitude of tops, altitude of 
> bottoms, etc. I don't pay any attention to which side is presented and 
> wouldn't know what to do with the information if I did notice. There 
> is no downgrade available and I don't how you could add points for it.
> However as a pilot, I would want to present the fuse top both times in 
> this maneuver because it makes the stall turns more natural.
>
> John
>
> On 11/15/2015 1:01 PM, Patrick Harris wrote:
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>     Canopy's look better than landing gear's.
>
>     On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion
>     <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>     <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
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>     Top or bottom is fine in either leg. Roll on downline will be the
>     same direction as the upline for each leg.  You are correct in
>     that you must be inverted through the 1/2 loop and of course
>     upright on exit.
>     John
>
>     On 11/15/2015 11:59 AM, Mike Austin via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
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>         All,
>
>         I have a question on the Figure M for Advanced 2016 schedule.
>         In reading the maneuver description the 1/4 rolls can be in
>         either direction. So in the 1st vertical leg the plane top can
>         face you after the 1/4 roll and 2nd vertical leg you could see
>         the bottom of the airplane. Does it matter the combination as
>         long as the center 1/2 loop is inverted? I want to make sure
>         to practice this correctly.
>
>         Thanks,
>
>         Mike
>
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