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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/15/2015 6:18 PM, James Hiller via
NSRCA-discussion wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times
New Roman";color:#1F497D">Also, line correction is
often needed which is more apparent after the roll and I'd
be more apt to give the correct commands looking at the top
of the airplane.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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New Roman";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times
New Roman";color:windowtext"> NSRCA-discussion
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 15, 2015 3:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2016 Advanced
Figure M with 1/4 rolls<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Yes
the canopy looks better- up close.<br>
<br>
Flying at 150 meters plus slant range to aircraft, it isn't
highly noticeable which side is presented. Also where is the
downgrade?<br>
Typically, as a judge, I'm too busy to notice that there has
been an effort to present the fuse top. I'm looking at
radii, roll centering, straight lines, quality of stall
turns, altitude of tops, altitude of bottoms, etc. I don't
pay any attention to which side is presented and wouldn't
know what to do with the information if I did notice. There
is no downgrade available and I don't how you could add
points for it.<br>
However as a pilot, I would want to present the fuse top
both times in this maneuver because it makes the stall turns
more natural.<br>
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Roman"">Top or bottom is fine in either leg.
Roll on downline will be the same direction as the
upline for each leg. You are correct in that you
must be inverted through the 1/2 loop and of course
upright on exit.<br>
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question on the Figure M for Advanced
2016 schedule. In reading the maneuver
description the 1/4 rolls can be in
either direction. So in the 1st
vertical leg the plane top can face
you after the 1/4 roll and 2nd
vertical leg you could see the bottom
of the airplane. Does it matter the
combination as long as the center 1/2
loop is inverted? I want to make sure
to practice this correctly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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