[NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21

Mon Dec 14 18:53:01 AKST 2015

My 2016 AMA card will be in the mail back to Muncie this week for a full
refund.  AMA is whining as they roll over.

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015, 9:46 PM Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> All RC aircraft are classified as "drones".  Read the faq linked by Scott
> at the thread start
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> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 7:45 PM -0800, "Jarvis Johnson via
> NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
> From my understanding, this is for drone user, not RC flyer.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Derek Koopowitz via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *To:* astropuppy <astropuppy at gmail.com>; General pattern discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 1:18 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21
>>
>> Why does this impact us?  This is only for drone usage... isn't it?
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:50 AM, astropuppy via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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>> I propose the NSRCA buy all of our airplanes and get one registration
>> number, providing copies of the NSRCA "Certifcate of Registration" to all
>> members in good standing.
>>
>> Q. If I let someone borrow my drone do I have to give them the
>> Certificate of Registration?
>> A. Yes, anyone who operates your drone must have the Certificate of
>> Aircraft Registration in their possession. You can give them a paper copy,
>> email it to them, or they can show it electronically from the registration
>> website.
>>
>> Mike
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>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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>> Ah.  That makes sense.  Classic failure to think though the use-cases.
>> If they just took AMA/CAA/BMFA/etc. #'s as valid registration they would
>> solve for the same thing.  If they really wanted to, they could just ask
>> AMA to provide data regarding their active members and impose a constraint
>> that AMA #'s can't be changed or reused.
>>
>> Peter+
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Peter,
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>> Actually, if you're not a US citizen, you have to do it by paper and
>> snail mail.  Only US Citizens can use the website so if you fly in the US,
>> according to the FAA, you still must register and cannot fly unregistered
>> here.  I believe Rex pointed out why that'd be a pain.
>>
>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>> Texas A&M University
>> PPL - ASEL
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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>> The really funny thing here is that you have to be a US citizen to
>> register your UAS, so if we speculate that this is some kind of
>> Anti-Terrorist thing (which, I don't believe it to be), then they are
>> missing a huge part of their target.
>>
>> It's over reach and redundant to the AMA membership requirement of having
>> your AMA # or name in the plane, but whatever, I'm happy to comply and
>> really don't see the point in getting my blood pressure elevated over
>> this.  I suspect sanity will return over time as AMA and FAA continue to
>> work together here, hopefully in a spirit of partnership rather than an
>> adversarial relationship.
>>
>> Peter+
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Rex via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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>> Could be interesting when having Canadians come to our pattern contests!
>> Or from any other country for that matter!   That would have to be handled
>> through snail mail...
>> OR....simply give your foreign buddy a dollar for their plane....print
>> your registration # on a piece of paper and tape it inside the
>> plane....give them a copy of your proof of registration....you are good to
>> go!  They can buy it back when they are ready to go home!   I forget, what
>> was the whole reason behind registration?   :-)
>>
>> Rex
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>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Jon Lowe via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Date: 12/14/2015 11:06 AM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21
>>
>> I see no reason why CDs or clubs need to be involved. This is between the
>> individual and the FAA. Unless AMA makes checking this be a requirement, we
>> should not do anything. I don't recall AMA checking FCC licenses back
>> before the FCC realized that trying to control Citizens Band was as useless
>> as this is.
>> Jon
>> Jon
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>> On Monday, December 14, 2015 Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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>> Karl,
>>
>> Good questions which need to be addressed, pattern or not.  The CD's are
>> going to have to make sure each entrant is registered or offer a way to
>> have them register at the field.  The registration # does not replace the
>> AMA # but must be contained in or on the model and accessible without
>> tools.  Heck, AMA clubs are going to have to make sure each person flying
>> on a Sunday afternoon is registered.  Within the NSRCA, I hope to address
>> this at our next board meeting to try to get y'all some answers as to how
>> we could/should handle pattern events.  They are AMA events though so
>> hopefully we can get some answers for y'all through the S.I.G.
>>
>> Vicente, I think the 400 ft AGL rule has always been in place per se.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>> Texas A&M University
>> PPL - ASEL
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Karl Watts <
>> Karl.Watts at saintalphonsus.org> wrote:
>>
>> OK, so how will this now impact our pattern competitions?  Will we have
>> to now provide proof of registration before we can fly at a contest and
>> have our registration # on our plane?  Does this replace the AMA #?
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 11:05 AM
>> *To:* General pattern discussion
>> *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21
>>
>> Well, here it is boys and girls.  It's official and starts next Monday.
>> The link is for the FAQ's of what's happening.
>>
>>  You only have to register once and you don't have to individually
>> register all of your models.
>> You must be able to provide proof of registration and have it on you when
>> flying.
>> You must have your Registration # (not going to be a N number) in your
>> airplane where it is legible and accessible without the use of tools (aka
>> under your canopy).
>> If you sell a model, you should update your records. (I don't completely
>> understand this if we aren't registering all of our models individually
>> but, OK)
>> Registration is $5 but you'll get that back if you register in the first
>> 30 days, I believe.
>>
>> Have a look at the link and prepare to be upset.....
>>
>> http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/
>>
>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>> Texas A&M University
>> PPL - ASEL
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